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Dylan said:
Been camping many a time mate, usually near Beddgelert in Snowdonia National Park.

And I know most peoples idea of camping and my idea of camping are different. I think of camping in a tent, my wife and her family, it is caravan/B&B and walks in the valley.
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Thought you lived out in the Pacific?
 
I did. I have many places. To include 12 years split between South Wales and Oldham. With my step-dad, from Birkenhead.
 
Dylan said:
A holiday's a holiday is a holiday. It is away from home, new people you will never see again......seen this time and time again in Hawaii. People cheat and cheat and cheat when on holiday sans partner.

Sounds shady. Drop her Jon. Do the right thing. Drop her.
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some people are sickos... i mean my mates is one of them lol.. he will sleep with someone one night, and not use any protection then go back to his gf and kid and sleep with her again with no protection and not care..

my ex would not do that.. deffo !!! she would not sleep with me if she slept with someone else !! im sure of that... i know i cant prove it !!! but i know the girl and believe it !!!

she told me when she kissed this guy instantly near enough... and in a way i respect her for that.. so if she was away, i again honestly dont believe she would have done anything !!!
 
GhostOfDixie said:
Must admit, I am leaning towards drop her.

ALthough I am still trying to get my head around "A holiday's a holiday is a holiday" :)
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Yeah, a holiday is a holiday is a holiday, meaning any way you slice it, it is still a holiday right after a break-up. ie, not good. For Jon.
 
SuitsBlue said:
you can cut so deep they always hit the bone. (ahem) not prepared to bang my head (ahem) against the wall any further.

horse

water

drink

sometimes you have to let people get on with it and realise it for themselves. you cant protect anyone forever.

best of luck jon, i ask you a favour, please dont bring the 'fallout' to my doorstep because i will take a good run up and kick you square in the balls (metaphorically speaking) + (im a [Poor language removed] for 'i told you so')
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cheers for that suits lol.. now go n sober up and im sure we will see you in the morning lol
 
jon_efc said:
some people are sickos... i mean my mates is one of them lol.. he will sleep with someone one night, and not use any protection then go back to his gf and kid and sleep with her again with no protection and not care..

my ex would not do that.. deffo !!! she would not sleep with me if she slept with someone else !! im sure of that... i know i cant prove it !!! but i know the girl and believe it !!!

she told me when she kissed this guy instantly near enough... and in a way i respect her for that.. so if she was away, i again honestly dont believe she would have done anything !!!
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Vacation is the great equaliser Jon. It brings qualities out of people they themselves never knew existed. It allows them to be somebody else, with no real repercussions and then go home and business as usual.
 
Dylan said:
Vacation is the great equaliser Jon. It brings qualities out of people they themselves never knew existed. It allows them to be somebody else, with no real repercussions and then go home and business as usual.
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well.. we will see wont we.. i know it can be for some .. but i dont know !! :S

anyway my head is [Poor language removed] even more now haha ... trying to think of what to put in the letter ... but going to bed now ...

going to make the letter as clear cut as possible... but either way... if this is 2 be sorted.. honesty and respect need to be earned
 
Don't write that bad boy drunk. Wait until Thursday at 2pm, then write it. Don't see her in between. Don't text her, talk to her, converse with her. Stay away and clear your head.
 
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