2025/26 Seamus Coleman

To the turf inspection poles.

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Yes, £10k a week because he'll be 38 in October, has had repeated injuries since the start of the 24/25 season and is unlikely to start many, if any, games.

If the club want him in a coaching role, then I'd be all for that, however it shouldn't be on a player's wage when that money could be used elsewhere.
How much do you think he would get as a coach, it would be over 10,000
 
Yes, £10k a week because he'll be 38 in October, has had repeated injuries since the start of the 24/25 season and is unlikely to start many, if any, games.

If the club want him in a coaching role, then I'd be all for that, however it shouldn't be on a player's wage when that money could be used elsewhere.

Agree witn this. All for him staying on in a coaching role, as a backup player would be sentimental nonsense. We have near zero confidence on him being available for any length of time, meaning we need a first choice backup, which defeats the point in keeping him around.

If he is registered as a player-coach in the event of true emergencies, that I can handle, if he is paid a coaches salary of course. There should be no sunny day plan with Seamus in it, if the squad has been decimated by injuries and suspensions and it's a choice between a 17 year old and Coleman for a one off game, it's a bit more understandable.
 
I suspect he helped us out in a bind last season, when he stayed on, we had so much todo in the close season. Id say the plan was, to get Tete and have Seamus and O'Brien as back up and loose one of either Patterson and Keane. In the end not getting a Tete or a viable alternative, meant its as you are - while his leadership in a year of adjustment is clearly valued at the club.

Truthfully his body isn't up to PL football anymore - the interesting thing, would be is if he moved somewhere else to have a shot at the Euros - but id doubt it, its his time sadly - comes to all and its just naturally his time...37 is some run.
 
I suspect he helped us out in a bind last season, when he stayed on, we had so much todo in the close season. Id say the plan was, to get Tete and have Seamus and O'Brien as back up and loose one of either Patterson and Keane. In the end not getting a Tete or a viable alternative, meant its as you are - while his leadership in a year of adjustment is clearly valued at the club.

Truthfully his body isn't up to PL football anymore - the interesting thing, would be is if he moved somewhere else to have a shot at the Euros - but id doubt it, its his time sadly - comes to all and its just naturally his time...37 is some run.
And it's time for the manager to tell him thanks very much but that time is up at Everton.

It's understandable that a player would want to stay on for club and country as long as possible. But it's up to the custodians of club and country to do their jobs and put their charges first - above the interests of any individual player. That Ireland are even thinking in terms of Seamus going to the Euros is an indictment of the FAI's pathetic player development. Everton have even less excuse, unless jobs for the boys is still the de facto culture despite the departure of "The Chairman, God rest his soul"...
 
And it's time for the manager to tell him thanks very much but that time is up at Everton.

It's understandable that a player would want to stay on for club and country as long as possible. But it's up to the custodians of club and country to do their jobs and put their charges first - above the interests of any individual player. That Ireland are even thinking in terms of Seamus going to the Euros is an indictment of the FAI's pathetic player development. Everton have even less excuse, unless jobs for the boys is still the de facto culture despite the departure of "The Chairman, God rest his soul"...

Well Ireland will always be limited ultimately bar an odd cycle - you are competing with Country’s with 10-20 times our population.

No excuses at Everton, it’s crimnal we haven’t had a right back worthy of the name - thats not Coleman’s fault really as he’s contributed and should de level or retire, but the situation it’s terribly neglectful as a club in the PL level.

I suppose you look at how much they value leadership - I suspect his role is standards and support in a time of change, it’s how much is that valued. Say Everton go, we have a backroom role for you, but Lampard comes in if they are promoted and wants his expierence for a year, then everyone has a decision to make.

Personaly I think his time as a PL player is over if I’m being very honest, I don’t think he ever got back to the level he was at after the Taylor tackle.
 
Well Ireland will always be limited ultimately bar an odd cycle - you are competing with Country’s with 10-20 times our population.

No excuses at Everton, it’s crimnal we haven’t had a right back worthy of the name - thats not Coleman’s fault really as he’s contributed and should de level or retire, but the situation it’s terribly neglectful as a club in the PL level.

I suppose you look at how much they value leadership - I suspect his role is standards and support in a time of change, it’s how much is that valued. Say Everton go, we have a backroom role for you, but Lampard comes in if they are promoted and wants his expierence for a year, then everyone has a decision to make.

Personaly I think his time as a PL player is over if I’m being very honest, I don’t think he ever got back to the level he was at after the Taylor tackle.
Ireland are more limited that they should be - John Delaney culture dictates that.

We should be competing with the likes of Denmark, Switzerland, and Croatia - countries of our size. The whole GAA excuse is a red herring. We underachieve at international level because we prefer to drink booze from the shoes of Delaney than demand accountability.
 
Ireland are more limited that they should be - John Delaney culture dictates that.

We should be competing with the likes of Denmark, Switzerland, and Croatia - countries of our size. The whole GAA excuse is a red herring. We underachieve at international level because we prefer to drink booze from the shoes of Delaney than demand accountability.

Id agree to an extent, we have historically competed so its achievable for sure - but i think it comes down to investment, in every town and village and even rural area in Ireland there are pitches and facilities for GAA - GPA's and GDO's in schools and clubs. In our biggest Urban areas and cities lads are still getting changed for association football in the backs of cars. The GAA is light years ahead of investment and nurturing talent compared to football in Ireland - i dont think football can ever catch up domestically if im honest.

We will always be underdogs, from a political point of view in football politics, from a numbers point of view with countries of a population of 60-100 mill Vs 5 mill and id acknowledge we also don't help ourselves - but like it or not the GAA point is a valid one - in the sense they are direct competitors and are light years ahead of association football in this country - the FAI blew the boom of the 90s and early 00ss.
 
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Ireland are more limited that they should be - John Delaney culture dictates that.

We should be competing with the likes of Denmark, Switzerland, and Croatia - countries of our size. The whole GAA excuse is a red herring. We underachieve at international level because we prefer to drink booze from the shoes of Delaney than demand accountability.

Also when you factor in that half the squad is made up of players from outside of the Irish population, English players with an Irish great grandmother, the population excuse starts to collapse very quickly.
 
Id agree to an extent, we have historically competed so its achievable for sure - but i think it comes down to investment, in every town and village and even rural area in Ireland there are pitches and facilities for GAA. In our biggest Urban areas and cities lads are still getting changed for association football in the backs of cars. The GAA is light years ahead of investment and nurturing talent compared to football in Ireland - i dont think football can ever catch up domestically if im honest.

We will always be underdogs, from a political point of view in football politics, from a numbers point of view and id acknowledge we also don help ourselves - but like it or not thee GAA point is a valid one - in the sense they are direct competitors and are light years ahead of association football in this country - the FAI blew the boom of the 90s and early 00ss.
The most played sport in the country is soccer. Not GAA.

The reason GAA is better organised and funded is because the culture of soccer is exclusionary. It excludes the middle class and the educated. That's why the best administrators tend to end up in the local GAA or rugby club. Soccer clubs are very often run by former jailbirds and other undesirables. The League of Ireland is run by money launderers and spivs.

Until the culture of Delaney is eradicated, we'll always be playing catch up to other countries of our size.
 

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