Sam Allardyce

[bluestevon]

Well I completely missed that...

Silva it is then.

In all seriousness, I'd have Dyche here. I think he's the one to take us forward over the next few years. But, I also get the need to have a 'name' manager who can attract better players to push us on.

Yopu didn't miss anything mate, Shakhtar announced via friendly media that they had offered him a new one ion December, and they where expecting a favourable outcome, since then though utter silence on it, so not signed by looks of it

 

[evertonarntwe]

when's he getting sacked then. never hated someone involved with everton as much as I hate this fool

 

[Timak]

I believe he has not got a clue about setting up a team to win games, only to defend.

Not sure we are set up to do that very well either!

 

[trueblue10]

I really dont get it. The amount of talent and quality in our squad and this is what we get.

Theres Something fundamentally wrong here.

What it is....is another question

We cant defend.

 

[bluestevon]

I'll go for Lookman hence the public dressing down

maybe so mate, hope it's true either way

 

[ultra]

From things i heard at the time, he was more than willing to come a couple of weeks after we sacked Koeman mate, i think he'd come now should be approach him with a concrete offer

His credentials sound great, plus he plays a high-press, expansive style.

 

[HongKongToffee]

He's milking the club,he seems to not really care about the club.

Training seems to be haphazard as their really is no cohesion among the players when they end up playing a match together except to park a bus with no tracking back,no defensive shape and attacking patterns of play.

Now he's thrown the players under the bus and seems the only tactic he prepared for the game was watching how Swansea beat Arsenal.

For someone like Big Sam who is quite xenophobic in regard to Foreign managers in the EPL,i find it amazing that he copied the tactics of a Portuguese manager in how to set up his team this past weekend.

Get rid in the summer and hire a young manager from Germany who is unemployed right now who plays a expansive attacking high pressing exciting brand of football.

 

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

If there is a final year that is. If there is maybe it's optional on both parties who knows?

I'm sure it was rumoured that we tried to offer him a much shorter contract Mick, but Allardyce said he was sick of being seen as a short term manager to get teams out of relegation, and that he wanted to prove that he could manage at a top club where he would also have money to spend.

The way we had to go back to him cap in hand after originally pissing him about makes me think he held all the cards in the contract negotiations mate.

 

[Papa Shango]

He's milking the club,he seems to not really care about the club.

Training seems to be haphazard as their really is no cohesion among the players when they end up playing a match together except to park a bus with no tracking back,no defensive shape and attacking patterns of play.

Now he's thrown the players under the bus and seems the only tactic he prepared for the game was watching how Swansea beat Arsenal.

For someone like Big Sam who is quite xenophobic in regard to Foreign managers in the EPL,i find it amazing that he copied the tactics of a Portuguese manager in how to set up his team this past weekend.

Get rid in the summer and hire a young manager from Germany who is unemployed right now who plays a expansive attacking high pressing exciting brand of football.

I...erm...what?

As for throwing players under the bus, they deserve to be thrown under an then reversed over countless times the useless gits.

 

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

Where did you see he signed an extension? I just looked around and saw nothing about it.

I just remembered reading something about a new 2 year contract mate, just checked myself, turns out they offered him a new contract after our interest but he didn't sign.

 

[bluestevon]

His credentials sound great, plus he plays a high-press, expansive style.

Any manager who comes this neck of the woods from Spain/Portugal that does well here gets my attention mate, they normally struggle massively - including some good one like Emery etc

 

[bcblue1878]

Mate, if Sam gets top 7, he ain't going anywhere.

Not a chance "Sam gets top 7"!

I'm only guessing, but I suspect by now it's clear even to him that a significant number of the squad can't stand the bloke, and that's partly why he can't get a tune out of them! Sounds like the pre match preparation for the Arsenal game was watching videos of Swansea and being told how good they are, dear god is that really what it's come to!

I think even the thick skin of Mr A knows that the (majority of?) fans want him gone, and if it goes pear shaped on Saturday against Palace he'll be gently reminded of that in no uncertain terms! Does he care we want him gone - no, cos' all he cares about is the pound notes he pockets every week for "saving us", it's a joke!

And today, pretty much for the first time the local, and even some sections of the national press, are starting to ask questions of him, his tactics which are twenty years out of date, team selections, his man management or lack of it, and his total lack of acceptance of any responsibility whatsoever!

The only reason we might finish top 10 is because of the total lack of quality below us, but top 7 this year is a pipe dream and will be for as long as he is in charge!

 

[bcblue1878]

* as soon as we are safe

Many would say now!

 

[Rollo Tomassi]

For all those making out like the defeat was anything out of the ordinary on Saturday, have you forgotten that we got beaten by these last season in the same fixture 3-1 when they had 10 men for 76 minutes and still managed to score 2 goals to our 1 in those 76 minutes? And have you forgotten that Manchester United put 4 past us earlier in the season, Arsenal put 5 past us already at Goodison, Southampton put 4 past us under Unsworth, and Atalanta beat us 5-1? Last season Chelsea beat us 5-0 at Stamford Bridge.

There seems to be a hysterical over reaction as though Allardyce has come in and turned us from some solid outfit who would go in to these games well drilled and disciplined and would only come away with narrow defeats, to a negative rabble. We've been garbage all season and the anti-Allardyce posters need to accept it.

I completely understand the frustration and people wanting him gone at the end of the season but attempting to rewrite history won't work when the facts are there to be seen. We should obviously be striving for better than Sam Allardyce if we want to progress as a club but he was needed in the dire situation Koeman put us in, and Unsworth was struggling to get us out of.

Let's not forget that after the Atalanta defeat Koeman said this: "It's not the time to criticise the players, i need to criticise myself. “The team was not prepared.. that’s (on) the manager.”

I also won't forget Unsworth's tactic of lumping balls to Sigurdsson at Lyon away where we were taken apart 3-0. And guess what, he played Martina at left back, and played Gana and Schneiderlin in centre midfield together. The same frustrating tactics that people slaughter Allardyce for.

Not that long ago we did the double over Man United and beat them 3 years in a row and Chelsea 4 years in a row so we are capable of beating these teams but it starts with a positive mindset which is something this manager hasnt got

 

[NCLBlue]

Has he gone yet?