Rousing defence of Kenwrong

[chicoazul]

DK was a bad option - that's why less than half of those asked voted for it.

How do you come to that conclusion?!

 

[DENNIS STEVENS]

That's a point like.

I'm defo of the worst hypocrites on here.


When it's all broke down though, the people who hate Kenwright really need to have a look at themselves - they've gone way over the top on someone who simply doesn't deserve it.

We've got some right blerts who follow us.

I don't hate the man, I don't know him. I'm sure his heart's in the right place but I have the feeling he's ****ed up somewhere along the line & we won't find out until much later, if at all. Maybe it all dates back to the collapse of the KD deal & the ousting of Gregg - was the price a compromising of Kenwright's position? I wonder what he'd do if he could go back to that point in time.

 

[DENNIS STEVENS]

the club are going with kirkby.

the fans want it.


i love goodison, but it is not going to improve everton football club.

sadly it's a dead weight around our neck. and we are struggling to keep our noses above water as it is.

the only evidence you have for the fans enthusiasm is a vote over 2 years ago where less than half of those offered a vote were enthusiastic enough to vote in support.

maybe it's a matter of Everton football club improving goodison park if they expect a reciprocal response.

if you think goodison is a dead weight, I think you'll find DK is more like a tombstone. I fear we will quickly be worse off there than we are now.

 

[DENNIS STEVENS]

90% of all the Kenwright stuff is flawed. It shows how dangerous the internet is though.

The question remains: if Kirkby gets called in, which it wont, then what now?

It's going to be great watching Everton play at Goodison in the lower divisions at some point not too far away.

So you'd rather see them play in the lower divisions at DK?

 

[davek]

They won't - because they can't. Which is why dave resorted to humour, to sidetrack.

Definitely in politics that dave.

The facts are all out there. FSF scam to see off a rival being the main charge against him. It's sad that some posters seem intent on winding up others over a legitimate grievance against a man economical with the actualité.

 

[chicoazul]

I don't hate the man, I don't know him. I'm sure his heart's in the right place but I have the feeling he's ****ed up somewhere along the line & we won't find out until much later, if at all. Maybe it all dates back to the collapse of the KD deal & the ousting of Gregg - was the price a compromising of Kenwright's position? I wonder what he'd do if he could go back to that point in time.

the only evidence you have for the fans enthusiasm is a vote over 2 years ago where less than half of those offered a vote were enthusiastic enough to vote in support.

maybe it's a matter of Everton football club improving goodison park if they expect a reciprocal response.

if you think goodison is a dead weight, I think you'll find DK is more like a tombstone. I fear we will quickly be worse off there than we are now.

You see mate, GrandOldTeam gave some facts there and most of this anti Kenwright stuff is based upon (usually wild) assertions and accusations.

This has been the theme of this thread.

 

[chicoazul]

So you'd rather see them play in the lower divisions at DK?

The extra income/investment would deem its more unlikely than at Goodison.

 

[DENNIS STEVENS]

The opposition have used up all their rhetoric by now, it's coming to a close mate.

I repeat my question: if Kirkby get's called in, what now?

Then we've still got hope, if nothing else. If DK proceeds then it's a completely hopeless situation. At Goodison Park, things may change for the better, but at DK it'll be an unrelenting struggle that'll make the last decade seem like a golden era.

 

[chicoazul]

The facts are all out there. FSF scam to see off a rival being the main charge against him. It's sad that some posters seem intent on winding up others over a legitimate grievance against a man economical with the actualité.

You should drop dead with irony dear Sir.

You'll find the one's who are not anti Kenwright are more than tolerable of the constant anti Kenwright grind on this place.

When we speak back, you really don't have many answers which illustrates our point very clearly.

You're just a bluer shade of Sons of Shankly.

 

[DENNIS STEVENS]

It's a possibility long term yes, at the very best we will tread water as Moyes himself said without new, adequate revenue streams.

But it's ok to point out that the attendance would be [Poor language removed] at a ground in Kirkby because the fanbase wouldn't move.

The same fanbase wouldnt be arsed to get out of bed to watch Everton get involved in relegation battles again, or even worse.

Moyes did say that we needed additional revenue, but didn't specify that he thought DK was necessarily the answer.

History proves you wrong I think, as far as I can recall off the cuff, weren't our average attendances quite reasonable for many of the mid-90's to early 00's despite our struggles in the league?

 

[chicoazul]

Then we've still got hope, if nothing else. If DK proceeds then it's a completely hopeless situation. At Goodison Park, things may change for the better, but at DK it'll be an unrelenting struggle that'll make the last decade seem like a golden era.

Hope doesn't pay the extortionate transfer fees of new players to improve the squad unfortunately mate.

I don't see how extra income/investment and better matchday facilities makes it a completely hopeless situation.

 

[DENNIS STEVENS]

I actually believe it will be an exciting time for the club as they will have to look at other options. Perhaps change the way they think about how the club operates on a day to day basis.

I like the way they are marketing themselves now, and I think that kind of shine needs to be continued throughout.

Finch Farm is a great venue for training. We have some great young talent. Not that much money, but maybe after this Kirkby debacle has been put to bed then we could end up taking a better option. One that was not given enough thought due to the quite obvious Tescos - Kirkby - Green link.

For me its not about in the city, out of the city, or even moving away from GP. It's about quality, and not compromising. Kirkby went from impressive to, well it's ok. But not enough to make me want to move from this crumbling stadium.

Interesting post, Ghost. We may get to see if there's a bit more to Elstone as CEO than there was to Wyness. Once Elstone no longer has to pay lip service to a scheme that he inherited he may have a few ideas of his own to put forward.

 

[chicoazul]

Moyes did say that we needed additional revenue, but didn't specify that he thought DK was necessarily the answer.

History proves you wrong I think, as far as I can recall off the cuff, weren't our average attendances quite reasonable for many of the mid-90's to early 00's despite our struggles in the league?

They improved after the Wimbledon game which acted as somewhat of a catalyst as it nearly was very [Poor language removed] indeed.

The tickets were much cheaper then though, I'd be wary of us going similarly [Poor language removed] now with prices like they are. Speak to Ghost and Goat about that one.

What about the cap on attendances when we fill the stadium? Surely it would be better to have an extra 5-10k available when the stadium's full.

D-man and I had a sweat on to get tickets for the Wolves game and we ended up with terrible, terrible seats. Not good sport is it?

 

[DENNIS STEVENS]

Well, Bill Kenwright is the chairman, surely it's up to him to provide direction and a future for the club. Clearly he is trying to do this with Kirkby, but it's a bit [Poor language removed]. Whether he likes it or not, that's his responsibility. He should be doing better than he is at his job, that's the point really.

Hear! Hear!

 

[DENNIS STEVENS]

Do you want to acknowledge that he's overseen us from being constant relegation material to regular top five? So, he's actually alright at his job then but there's loads of snides who would rather stay bevvying near the current ground than see us get investment for new, better players and stuff?

I see your politeness knows no bounds.