Ross Barkley

[davek]

Language David.

Bollocks is not allowed now?

ok.

 

[davek]

And the "person in power" has given the "responder" a bumper contract to sign, so the outcome is now thoroughly in the hands of Barkley

If Koeman had offered Ross a rubbish deal or no deal at all, then maybe the situation would be more cut and dry, but he hasn't

To quote Dana White, Ross has been offered "an ass load of money", and currently he's turned that down and is potentially looking to move away for LESS money. The rational reasoning is that Ross would rather work with someone else, which is fair enough. However, Koeman has done right by him here with this money offer and he's played him many times throughout the season and Ross has been professional in all his personal dealings with the club, outside of letting this drag on by not giving an answer

There's no hero or villain here, just two different people who don't appear to be gelling in a manager/player relationship. This has happened at every club since the dawn of time. It happened in fact with Kev and Martinez as well. Sometimes personalities don't mesh, and when you have to see someone basically every day for 11 months of the year, that's going to play a role in whether you want to retain your position of employment. However, that doesn't make anyone involved a bad person or qualified for any blame of vilification

THAT's a rational response to this

You dont know that so your hierarchy of blame / balance of blame is built on sand.

 

[Toffeepot]

Ross didn't sign the contract.
RK said he wanted to keep him which is why they offered a contract.
RK didn't kiss his ass like RM did and called out the player for bad performances.
RK said Ross told him he wanted CL
RK said he wants that too and was trying to convince him that was everyone's goal.
100k a week is a good contract
Ross did have a responsibility to give an answer and he didn't either way as far as we all know.
RK is not to blame for any of this and no doubt he'd be happy to keep him but as he said himself there will be more competition for him so there'll be no sentiment when it comes to poor performances.
The reason RK treats Lukaku differently to Ross is because Lukaku was upfront with him, Ross wasn't/isn't.

 

[davek]

Lol

He's a more rounded player now, IMO.

I think we've seen a better Ross barkley in 2017 than we have since his breakthrough season.

...so what exactly does he do differently....?

 

[Thomasc]

You dont know that so your hierarchy of blame / balance of blame is built on sand.

Will somebody point out "the bleeding obvious" to Mr know all here please?

 

[BlueToff]

...so what exactly does he do differently....?

I'd say the frequency/quality of his 'end product' is a lot better, and his decision making has improved.

I think that's down to him being pressed further upfield, as well as obviously him working hard on his game.

He's also improved in terms of his work rate and application, imo, as well.

 

[Neiler]

I fear for Ross to be honest.

 

[Pabbers]

Anyone listening to TalkSport.... the lad is not good enough for us and they are suggesting WBA or Palace as destinations!!!!

 

[cromofo]

Everton is Barkley's ceiling.

Overhyped.

 

[sageyefc]

I fear for Ross to be honest.

Needs to stop listening to his awful advisors, then again the kid appears to be brain dead

 

[Pabbers]

5th most creative player in the league = Not good enough.

 

[Papa Shango]

Anyone listening to TalkSport.... the lad is not good enough for us and they are suggesting WBA or Palace as destinations!!!!

Well if he isnt good enough for us they would be the next logical step along with the likes of Southampton. Maybe Newcastle if they want a statement signing.

 

[Papa Shango]

5th most creative player in the league = Not good enough.

Depends how you define creative. Being "creative" at the right time etc.

 

[Pabbers]

Well if he isnt good enough for us they would be the next logical step along with the likes of Southampton. Maybe Newcastle if they want a statement signing.

He clearly is good enough, hence club offering £140k(c) a week to him.

People just bitter.

 

[sageyefc]

He clearly is good enough, hence club offering £140k(c) a week to him.

People just bitter.

What clubs offering that?