Roberto Martinez discussion

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Anyone think that really we've appointed Martinez to the wrong role at the Club?

He's boss at identifying and then buying players, but awful at getting them to do the important things, like winning.

Let's move him upstairs to Director of Football and bring someone who is used to be a first team coach in below.

Like Vitor.

Everyone wins, hopefully including Everton more than 35% of the time
 
I just don't rate the manager as much as some on here, had moyes been in charge yesterday he would have been slammed for that capitulation and rightly so. I'll praise the manager and players when they perform well but equally ill slam them when they put in gutless displays like above. It's like RAWK in here when Todgers was Shanks reincarnated you can't say a bad word without being an ISIL supporter.

But theres a happy medium to be reached surely?

I mean last season when we went 12 games without a win I can understand the frustration, but the level of bile being spouted after an "unlucky" draw yesterday is almost reaching fever pitch.
 
Anyone think that really we've appointed Martinez to the wrong role at the Club?

He's boss at identifying and then buying players, but awful at getting them to do the important things, like winning.

Let's move him upstairs to Director of Football and bring someone who is used to be a first team coach in below.

Like Vitor.

Everyone wins, hopefully including Everton more than 35% of the time

Exactly. Martinez is a director of football. He's done amazingly to bring this squad together but he is not the best coach to use them. If we finish midtable and allow Lukaku Stones Barkley and Del to leave the club without winning anything here that will be a disgrace.
 
But theres a happy medium to be reached surely?

Here's one mate
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But theres a happy medium to be reached surely?

I mean last season when we went 12 games without a win I can understand the frustration, but the level of bile being spouted after an "unlucky" draw yesterday is almost reaching fever pitch.

I just think without Europe we should be much higher than where we are. Effectively for the sides without European football to contend with (us, West ham, Southampton and Palace) we are below 2 of those and only a point above the other, despite us probably having man for man the better sides out of those maybe apart from 2-3 players (Payet, Mane, Wanayama, Bolasie, Cabaye).

We have the 2nd top scorer and the 2nd top assister (Rom & Del) yet will probably be 9th come the end of today. Leicester have the top scorer and sat in 3rd by perspective, we should be doing much better and for me it's the complete lack of defensive nous from the manager/no desire to press the opposition when off the ball.
 
I just think without Europe we should be much higher than where we are. Effectively for the sides without European football to contend with (us, West ham, Southampton and Palace) we are below 2 of those and only a point above the other, despite us probably having man for man the better sides out of those maybe apart from 2-3 players (Payet, Mane, Wanayama, Bolasie, Cabaye).

We have the 2nd top scorer and the 2nd top assister (Rom & Del) yet will be probably be 9th come the end of today. Leicester have the top scorer and sat in 3rd by perspective, we should be doing much better and for me it's the complete lack of defensive nous from the manager/no desire to press the opposition when off the ball.

The season ends in May tho.

We will finish above every single no mark team you mention here.
 
We have the 2nd top scorer and the 2nd top assister (Rom & Del) yet will probably be 9th come the end of today. Leicester have the top scorer and sat in 3rd by perspective, we should be doing much better and for me it's the complete lack of defensive nous from the manager/no desire to press the opposition when off the ball.
Thats still my biggest gripe. They just stand off their opponents and wait for them to give it away.
 
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