Right now this club is a shambles

[degsy]

This is nothing new. THREE managers on the bounce have outstayed their welcome. Even all those years ago it took us getting embarrassed at 'boro for smith to get the bullet.

fixed that for you.

 

[degsy]

We are embarrising. A win against a bang average arsenal team will cover over all the cracks.

dream on; any bang average team will see us off

 

[d4kyxx]

Completely agree with Davek here

The 13/14 season we had a top young side full of energy and desire..

Ever since then it’s gone backwards, the squads aged and many players have regressed, the best have been sold! And players that lack quality have been bought

 

[Stuartisitc1878]

If sacking him isn't the answer then I dont know what the question could be.

Immediately if Unsworth stepped in we'd get some breathing space and a big reaction. Young players would be boosted and Barkley would make a miraculous recovery out of the treatment room.

we'd have a man in charge - even if only temporarily - that is proud to be manager of Everton football club

 

[degsy]

Be 4_0 everton on Sunday
Best performance for years
Goodison bouncing
Then we'll sack Koeman on the Monday morning

I'll take that all day long

 

[GrandOldTeam]

Completely agree with Davek here

The 13/14 season we had a top young side full of energy and desire..

Ever since then it’s gone backwards, the squads aged and many players have regressed, the best have been sold! And players that lack quality have been bought

Martinez could build on a very stable side that had just finished 5th - he injected a bit of pace/loans desperate to prove a point and it worked.

His last season was the worst I've ever seen of Everton - that Anfield performance the worst, followed by that Sunderland performance.

Koeman inherited that absolute mess, consolidated initially, steady improvement - successive poor transfer windows have really let us down. Unfortunately we'll never know who was ultimately responsible, because there's no clarity on involvement.

 

[matty1878]

The club is a shambles and lots needs to be done. The silence is deafening but to compare it to Walter smith days or mike walker is laughable. It's bad but its not that bad.

 

[ianefc]

fixed that for you.

Moyes made the other two look like Laurie Sanchez. Did great for us with much less resources. 2 bottom half finishes in 11 seasons. Martinez had 2 in 3 and Koeman is on track for a relegation battle.

 

[davek]

The club is a shambles and lots needs to be done. The silence is deafening but to compare it to Walter smith days or mike walker is laughable. It's bad but its not that bad.

Walter Smith and Walker were more than a generation ago.

The point stands.

 

[davek]

Martinez could build on a very stable side that had just finished 5th - he injected a bit of pace/loans desperate to prove a point and it worked.

His last season was the worst I've ever seen of Everton - that Anfield performance the worst, followed by that Sunderland performance.

Koeman inherited that absolute mess, consolidated initially, steady improvement - successive poor transfer windows have really let us down. Unfortunately we'll never know who was ultimately responsible, because there's no clarity on involvement.

Buck stops with the manager. Always. To his credit even Koeman has accepted that since last night's game.

 

[Blues Harp]

Martinez could build on a very stable side that had just finished 5th - he injected a bit of pace/loans desperate to prove a point and it worked.

His last season was the worst I've ever seen of Everton - that Anfield performance the worst, followed by that Sunderland performance.

Koeman inherited that absolute mess, consolidated initially, steady improvement - successive poor transfer windows have really let us down. Unfortunately we'll never know who was ultimately responsible, because there's no clarity on involvement.

Good points made. I like Unsworth a lot and he has done wonders with the u23s but I am not as convinced as the OP that if made manager he would have an immediate effect....surely we should be looking a bit more ambitiously? Oh wait, forgot who is still on the board....

 

[Kiwi]

Stems from a failure to replace Lukaku from me. If you sell a 20 goal striker and then don't replace him what do you expect to happen.
I always thought we'd struggle a bit with the amount of new players in the team but the manager hasn't helped himself. Keeps looking for the winning formula by changing it up when perhaps he should have been looking to play a consistent 11 to get them to gel. Can't see him getting the results to save his job.

 

[EFC Si]

Koeman has to go now - he doesn't have the dressing room. I never think he really wanted to be here.

Sort of hoping we lose against arsenal so it can be his final nail

 

[GrandOldTeam]

Stems from a failure to replace Lukaku from me. If you sell a 20 goal striker and then don't replace him what do you expect to happen.
I always thought we'd struggle a bit with the amount of new players in the team but the manager hasn't helped himself. Keeps looking for the winning formula by changing it up when perhaps he should have been looking to play a consistent 11 to get them to gel. Can't see him getting the results to save his job.

Not just that, we needed a striker even with Lukaku here. Repeated windows we failed to bring in key positions.

Go back to Lucas Perez etc and that interview when Moshiri went through all the names Koeman asked for but we failed - Koulibaly, Sissoko etc - even Depay.

 

[degsy]

We're all arguing with each other meanwhile the silence from the Club is deafening