Right now this club is a shambles

[degsy]

Four actually, Degs.

Walter was here four years, believe it or not

maybe even 5, 6 or 7 plus, but I didn't want to rub it in

 

[Toffeelover]

• Worst team in a generation
• Worst football in a generation
• Worst manager in a generation
• Our best player hounded out to the margins of the club
• Good young players going backwards in their development
• Players embarrassing the club on the pitch in front of the whole of the continent
• Biggest transfer war-chest in the club's history flushed down the toilet
• Ineffective leadership off the pitch from the club chairman, CEO and owner
• Stadium situation looking less than green for go

We've stepped back in a time machine and this is the late 90s again.

Like that Dave except last two points, stadium IMO will happen the owner for me has done good for the club, not his fault that Koeman messes up signings, team selection and tactics.

 

[Toffeelover]

I agree. The tirade I'd like to give would see this thread pulled.

Proceed but do not use four letter words or their ilk, feel free to let us know.

 

[Khalekan]

Like that Dave except last two points, stadium IMO will happen the owner for me has done good for the club, not his fault that Koeman messes up signings, team selection and tactics.

If we were to be relegated, I wonder what effect that would have on the new stadium project.

 

[Toffeelover]

If we were to be relegated, I wonder what effect that would have on the new stadium project.

None.

 

[deipnosophist]

It is an utter shambles; a disheveled mess.

But gird your loins lads; there are deeper depths of anguish/disgrace that Everton's inept Board ensures we have yet to plumb...

 

[tommytowne]

Like that Dave except last two points, stadium IMO will happen the owner for me has done good for the club, not his fault that Koeman messes up signings, team selection and tactics.

But should Moshiri get away with giving Koeman "get out of jail free" cards by telling us that games are winnable/not winnable.
Where is the we should be looking to win all bleeding games. Moshiri can't have it both ways. He us either involved just with stabilising the club financially and keep his nose out of the football side, or accept that he is day by day, turning into an incompetent meddling fool.

 

[Toffeelover]

But should Moshiri get away with giving Koeman "get out of jail free" cards by telling us that games are winnable/not winnable.
Where is the we should be looking to win all bleeding games. Moshiri can't have it both ways. He us either involved just with stabilising the club financially and keep his nose out of the football side, or accept that he is day by day, turning into an incompetent meddling fool.

But it is not just Mosh, he has done some good for the club. You are ignoring those facts in pursuit of the current antagonism to Koeman.

 

[JAYMULL]

I have been an Evertonian all my 55 years and in that time apart from brief success (which came to an end not through Hysel but through Howard Kendall leaving/no long term plan to remain at the top of English football), we have been largely average. Is it collective Karma? I don't know what it is but it seems that way. How many times in the past 50 years we've beaten Liverpool home and away? not many that's for sure despite the fact they have had mediocre sides for many years since they were a great side. Since the Premier League began look at the number of times we've got a point at Chelsea, Spurs, Arsenal, Man Utd. When we seem in the position to kick on we rarely do. It doesn't matter if RK is sacked or not nobody can change our fortunes. I honestly believe that. Liverpool did a deal with the devil and we will forever live in their shadow. Don't get upset by this I'm not a closet Kopite I can't abide them but the fact is we're generally just an average side. On a positive note the Club is the supporters and there are no better than an Evertonian.

 

[Khalekan]

It is an utter shambles; a disheveled mess.

But gird your loins lads; there are deeper depths of anguish/disgrace that Everton's inept Board ensures we have yet to plumb...

Indeed.

My experience of life has shown me that no matter how bad things are, they can always take a turn for the worst.

 

[Eggs]

...this is bad but I have seen worst. I also doubt Barkley has been ‘hounded out’ even if @davek talks as though it’s fact. It might make the points more palatable if the post was reasoned as his opinion rather than so abrasive. Dave knows his stuff and often makes valid points but not often in a considered way.

 

[royalblue66]

Indeed.

My experience of life has shown me that no matter how bad things are, they can always take a turn for the worst.

Quite right Will.

 

[tommytowne]

But it is not just Mosh, he has done some good for the club. You are ignoring those facts in pursuit of the current antagonism to Koeman.

Not at all.
Moshiri has undoubtedly done non headline making stuff behind the scenes.
My criticism of him is than when he gets involved with football issues the man is an idiot, as borne out by the Sky Sports deadline day cringeworthy debacle.

 

[Saint Domingo]

Does anyone at Everton remotely care? Probably not. Get a few words a, quiet the locals down, don't get relegated, no one rocks the boat, rinse and repeat next season.

 

[billyblue80]

We are in trouble. We need a jolt not just sacking the manager but a reassessment of our chronic lack of ambition in every area.