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Privatisation of main government services does not work - Rail, water - fuel are prime examples of shareholders gaining public money & services not being run efficiently- unions have the right to strike if it was run as a public service properly for the people - the curruption of the privatisation will be removed ....
They are being run badly expensively for fat cat share holders ....
 
Privatisation of main government services does not work - Rail, water - fuel are prime examples of shareholders gaining public money & services not being run efficiently- unions have the right to strike if it was run as a public service properly for the people - the curruption of the privatisation will be removed ....
They are being run badly expensively for fat cat share holders ....
Are you for real Joe? Nurses are striking, border patrol are striking, fire fighters are striking. They're all working for nationalised organisations. This has absolutely nothing to do with public v private.
 
We're due to visit the in-laws for Christmas, and with both train staff and border control striking on the day of our flight it's pretty uncertain. But yeah, dividends. What a shitty country we've become that is all looking out for yourself and stuff anyone else.

Hilarious. Your comments literally come across as someone who looks after themselves and sod everyone else
 
I'm not party to the negotiations so I have no idea who is to blame or not (incidentally, my wife and many of her colleagues are actually coming to oppose the strikes because of the rhetoric from the nurses union, none of which will actually get to the heart of the problem, which is a lack of staff, not how much they're paid). My point is that the unions always want to punish customers in the hope that the employer cares more about annoyed customers than they do. It's not right. None of this is the customer/end users fault, and yet they suffer all the time, and they'll suffer from the higher pay that will inevitably result from this because the costs will be passed on through higher ticket prices (that are already the highest in Europe).
How are the unions supposed to strike without stopping what they are paid to do?
We can't go in and say it's free service enjoy yourself, why because the tories made it illegal years a go(union did look at this and got told they would end up on court)
The contempt the government has for us is bad enough as it is
Never mind backing off.
In a fair and reasonable environment we could get a deal,
Every other corner of the country were the government has not poked its nose in, has a deal in play modernization ect.
This lot just move the goalpost every other week.
Like I have said a few post back are employers don't even know what's going on.
You have a bit of inconvenience, on Balance it's nothing compared to people fighting for there future , to keep a roof over there families heads ect in a lot of cases.
I support any persons right to withdraw there labour.
Otherwise you are nothing but a glorified peasant.
If you have an alternative to strike that would work in the real world , with this government let's hear it.?
Be much better than the six days pay I will be getting for the next two weeks on the run up to Xmas.
i will get by but god help those with families ect.
 
Are you for real Joe? Nurses are striking, border patrol are striking, fire fighters are striking. They're all working for nationalised organisations. This has absolutely nothing to do with public v private.
Are they being run correctly answer no - top down management under Tory rule ....private rail areas have gone bust in certain regions in the past & been renationalised short term to make profit-Then sadly reprivatised for ticket prices to go up ....
you talk of privatisation rail. Wise the government pay for all the maintenance of the track while private shareholders take the profits e.g. The water board not in their interest to repair burst pipes then when droughts happen their inefficiency of them raking profits is not questionable?
The NHS is ruined by top management e.g. The director of my NHS is a retired top police commissioner?
I have an on going complaint and googled the management structure & salaries a total joke hence my mother in law allowed to fall in the emergency department has been in hospital for 12 months they have given her cabbage exsistance ...
The onbudsman has taken our side yet the sad saga goes on - the social care is non exsistant 12 moths of hell for berocrats in ivory towers just stick their fingers in their ears it's more than their jobs worth .....
Nationalisation can work if set up properly other countries do it -

All governments interfere & turn it into a political football at customers & users cost ....
Services run publically properly can work more efficiently, but it will not run with greed as the no one priority areas vary, but overall both systems in areas are failing the public .....badly ....
 
Are they being run correctly answer no - top down management under Tory rule ....private rail areas have gone bust in certain regions in the past & been renationalised short term to make profit-Then sadly reprivatised for ticket prices to go up ....
you talk of privatisation rail. Wise the government pay for all the maintenance of the track while private shareholders take the profits e.g. The water board not in their interest to repair burst pipes then when droughts happen their inefficiency of them raking profits is not questionable?
The NHS is ruined by top management e.g. The director of my NHS is a retired top police commissioner?
I have an on going complaint and googled the management structure & salaries a total joke hence my mother in law allowed to fall in the emergency department has been in hospital for 12 months they have given her cabbage exsistance ...
The onbudsman has taken our side yet the sad saga goes on - the social care is non exsistant 12 moths of hell for berocrats in ivory towers just stick their fingers in their ears it's more than their jobs worth .....
Nationalisation can work if set up properly other countries do it -

All governments interfere & turn it into a political football at customers & users cost ....
Services run publically properly can work more efficiently, but it will not run with greed as the no one priority areas vary, but overall both systems in areas are failing the public .....badly ....
Its been great privatisation Joe.
Rail third more investment than BR, now a joke,
Companies just taking profit then getting out when they fail to give a service.
Water, pouring poo into are waters on an industrial scale.
Electricity, well let's not even go there, we prop up Companies that have gone bust and pay a high price for it.
Doctors surgery , run as a business,
Shocking service, can't see a doctor
And on it goes.
We used to have the power to have a say in all this ,
Now all sold at the alter of profit for the rich.
Has it made cheaper and better service anywhere in reality?
Thatcher , had wars, terrorism, winter of discontented, country total national debt 80,billion pound.
Now after there grand experiment it's trillions.
No library's
No local youth clubs.
People left in corridors in hospital ect
People on zero hours contracts all over the show.
The rich getting richer, and the only thing growing is poverty for the rest.
Privatisation was a con and continued to this day as one.
Anyone who can't see it is either daft or doesn't want to see it for there own ends.
 
Are you for real Joe? Nurses are striking, border patrol are striking, fire fighters are striking. They're all working for nationalised organisations. This has absolutely nothing to do with public v private.
Many of these services have privatized elements which have hollowed out working conditions for many employee, entirely misleading to suggest they are nationalised organisations.
 
Many of these services have privatized elements which have hollowed out working conditions for many employee, entirely misleading to suggest they are nationalised organisations.
I worked all my career in Local government & the health service, in Horticulture - I witnessed poor services & Very good services - all down to who was at the top running his department - my old supervisor told me as an apprentice - it does not matter how good you are if the management above you are rubbish you will never improve the department - how true that was from a wise person ....

How true that was when I moved around the UK in my job ......
 
Getting all upset because people are defending their livelihoods. Pathetic behaviour
Not at all. I'm getting upset because they're "defending their livelihoods" by messing with everyone else's. They can negotiate with their bosses to their heart's content for all I care. Striking is like throwing a tantrum and is nothing more than rent seeking.
 
We're due to visit the in-laws for Christmas, and with both train staff and border control striking on the day of our flight it's pretty uncertain. But yeah, dividends. What a shitty country we've become that is all looking out for yourself and stuff anyone else.

That's literally what you are doing by moaning that you can't go and see family for Christmas.

You want others to suffer all year round whilst carrying out their jobs so you can get a new lynx set.
 
Not at all. I'm getting upset because they're "defending their livelihoods" by messing with everyone else's. They can negotiate with their bosses to their heart's content for all I care. Striking is like throwing a tantrum and is nothing more than rent seeking.
So, what what would you do if you were a rail worker?
Your getting a pay cut this year, and next year and being told you may not actually have a job cause of "modernisation"
Your pension will be messed with.
Your contract changed
Your right to actually appeal or fight any future changes.
Safety of passengers put at risk as only 1 staff member on a train. What happens if a serious incident hits, like a heart attack, fainting etc etc.

Ow putting aside you might need to make other plans for Xmas or find a different means of travel and the fact this probably perturbs you.
As a rail worker, facing the above and probably more, how would you take.that.and what would you do if somebody threatened your livelihood like that?
 
That's literally what you are doing by moaning that you can't go and see family for Christmas.

You want others to suffer all year round whilst carrying out their jobs so you can get a new lynx set.

Bit of meaningless turkey on a specific day of the year. Meanwhile outside there’s bigger things at stake.
 
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