Good. If you loot under the pretence of ‘saving the kids’ then you deserve a few months in jail, whether that’s a iPhone or Greggs sausage roll
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Riot – Sentencing
www.sentencingcouncil.org.uk
“Other offences committed within incidents of riot:
Where sentencing other offences committed in the context of riot, the court should treat the context of the offending as a severely aggravating feature of any offence charged.”
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Exactly, it's not like your average everyday car vandal was just trying to go about his usual business but was inconvenienced by the rioting and thought "ho hum, I best just crack on, I've got car windows that need smashing".
It’ll be interesting to see if these arrests have any impact on the planned protests today. Will people stay away?
100% AGREE - I was on the wrong end of this sort of thing a number of times in my youth
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Government said specifically those serving time for violent of sexual offences would not be released early.
Lord Chancellor sets out immediate action to defuse ticking prison ‘time-bomb’
Lord Chancellor Shabana Mahmood has set out how the government will stop the impending collapse of the criminal justice system.
"Sentences for serious violent offences of four years or more, as well as sex offences will be automatically excluded, and, in an important distinction from End of Custody Supervised Licence scheme, the early release of offenders in prison for domestic abuse connected crimes will also be excluded. This will include:
- stalking offences
- controlling or coercive behaviours in an intimate or family relationship
- non-fatal strangulation and suffocation
- breach of restraining order, non-molestation order, and domestic abuse protection order"
Riot – Sentencing
“Other offences committed within incidents of riot:
Where sentencing other offences committed in the context of riot, the court should treat the context of the offending as a severely aggravating feature of any offence charged.”
So as I said then on the post you've quoted when I said "They'll be ball park in terms of sentencing. Crimes at riots, aren't"
A riot is anymore than 12, btw. Not a lot, really.
Mate come on, we both know there were significantly more than 12 at all of the riots over the weekend.
Yeah, on the face of it, it seems very harsh to get 6/12/16 months for stealing a bottle of water or some donuts, but that has nothing to do with politics. It’s the way sentencing works in these cases.
‘2 tier kier’ tho
It has everything to do with politics mate.
That's where we fundamentally disagree.
Government said specifically those serving time for violent of sexual offences would not be released early.
Lord Chancellor sets out immediate action to defuse ticking prison ‘time-bomb’
Lord Chancellor Shabana Mahmood has set out how the government will stop the impending collapse of the criminal justice system.www.gov.uk
"Sentences for serious violent offences of four years or more, as well as sex offences will be automatically excluded, and, in an important distinction from End of Custody Supervised Licence scheme, the early release of offenders in prison for domestic abuse connected crimes will also be excluded. This will include:
- stalking offences
- controlling or coercive behaviours in an intimate or family relationship
- non-fatal strangulation and suffocation
- breach of restraining order, non-molestation order, and domestic abuse protection order"
There was some exceptions, but;
Violent prisoners will be freed early to ease overcrowding
Inmates will be released after 40 per cent of their sentence to ease jails crisis and prevent ‘unchecked criminality’ on streets
www.telegraph.co.uk
- On Friday, Shabana Mahmood, the Justice Secretary, will announce measures that would free criminals, including some convicted of violent offences, who have served 40 per cent of their sentences
- It will include criminals convicted of violence who have been jailed for under four years, but exclude those serving longer sentences for more serious violence
Let's not replace them, in my view, with a woman with no convictions who nicks some water for 16 months.
I think we’re best off agreeing to disagree here mate.
My understanding is very much that the legal process of the courts is carried out independently of the House of Commons.
Obviously changes to laws go through parliament, but at this stage they seem to be being charged and sentenced within the existing legal framework.
Least any potential water stealer will most probably only serve 40% of their sentencesThere was some exceptions, but;
Violent prisoners will be freed early to ease overcrowding
Inmates will be released after 40 per cent of their sentence to ease jails crisis and prevent ‘unchecked criminality’ on streets
^ So yes, Starmer was releasing violent criminals just weeks before.
- On Friday, Shabana Mahmood, the Justice Secretary, will announce measures that would free criminals, including some convicted of violent offences, who have served 40 per cent of their sentences
- It will include criminals convicted of violence who have been jailed for under four years, but exclude those serving longer sentences for more serious violence
Let's not replace them, in my view, with a woman with no convictions who nicks some water for 16 months.
This man had a mid-riot pub crawl then got arrested
Liam Riley recalled his last pint was at Ranelagh’s Tavern
LOL, unlucky lad, enjoy your holiday.
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