Current Affairs Race wars, neo-nazis and other unpleasantness

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I think we’re best off agreeing to disagree here mate.

My understanding is very much that the legal process of the courts is carried out independently of the House of Commons.

Obviously changes to laws go through parliament, but at this stage they seem to be being charged and sentenced within the existing legal framework.

Aye mate.

I'm sure politics have no input.

*goes back to reading how Starmer ordered 24-hour courts to crack down on riots*
 
There was some exceptions, but;


  • On Friday, Shabana Mahmood, the Justice Secretary, will announce measures that would free criminals, including some convicted of violent offences, who have served 40 per cent of their sentences
  • It will include criminals convicted of violence who have been jailed for under four years, but exclude those serving longer sentences for more serious violence
^ So yes, Starmer was releasing violent criminals just weeks before.

Let's not replace them, in my view, with a woman with no convictions who nicks some water for 16 months.
Peter 'punch up' every Friday after last orders is a habitual offender, violent offender? yes - needs a community banning order to keep him from areas he'll find trouble after a load of pints.
Some other twit* that's kidnapped some young lady at knife point then sexually molested her is also a violent offender. Significantly more of a problem.
There are varying degrees of violence and intent, as well as impact. I recall Craig Charles was accused of rape and ended up on remand (later cleared btw) he said the system was crazy as there were shoplifters being held alongside murderers and that exposure to genuine serious criminal scum (paraphrasing here) was an ordeal in itself.
I don't mind the current framing of sentences, it is not an accident the first lot up have all plead guilty, it'll be interesting when someone goes not guilty and is found guilty anyway, that'll be when the real face of punishment is seen. This current bunch will do 50% max and it's a shock to the system, they won't fancy going back. Next time an 'opportunity' comes to go out rioting they'll think twice, get caught again and three years will seem like a dream outcome.

There is clearly a message of deterrent being explained here.
 
Peter 'punch up' every Friday after last orders is a habitual offender, violent offender? yes - needs a community banning order to keep him from areas he'll find trouble after a load of pints.
Some other twit* that's kidnapped some young lady at knife point then sexually molested her is also a violent offender. Significantly more of a problem.
There are varying degrees of violence and intent, as well as impact. I recall Craig Charles was accused of rape and ended up on remand (later cleared btw) he said the system was crazy as there were shoplifters being held alongside murderers and that exposure to genuine serious criminal scum (paraphrasing here) was an ordeal in itself.
I don't mind the current framing of sentences, it is not an accident the first lot up have all plead guilty, it'll be interesting when someone goes not guilty and is found guilty anyway, that'll be when the real face of punishment is seen. This current bunch will do 50% max and it's a shock to the system, they won't fancy going back. Next time an 'opportunity' comes to go out rioting they'll think twice, get caught again and three years will seem like a dream outcome.

There is clearly a message of deterrent being explained here.

I don't think there is a current framing of sentences yet.

The examples given from 2011 are what they are though, and we'll see the same again.

I have an inherent distrust of the state.

But then, I find history interesting so I'm bound to...
 
Why the twice galvanised blind faith in their coppers then?

You're blinded by hatred of the police.

You can respect authority/day-to-day policing but have a healthy cynicism of the state.

So if I went outside for a second walk during Covid in 2020 *gasp*, I can loathe the state for their nonsense but respect the police officer and follow his/her instruction to go home.
 
Were they blag?
I’m not certain but apparently shoe zone sells jarg crocs and people are saying these don’t have the right markings on the button /rivets .

I have to say I know nothing about crocs and have never heard of shoe zone so I’ll do a farage and say “some people are saying they are blag crocs , I don’t know “
 
I sure have picked an inauspicious time for my Thai friends and family to visit me from Thailand this weekend.

I’ll just wear my Stone Island, Paul and Shark and Fred Perry polos. Everyone will be confused AF.
 
Aye mate.

I'm sure politics have no input.

*goes back to reading how Starmer ordered 24-hour courts to crack down on riots*
Yeah? It’s in the public interest to have these cases processed quickly when there are more riots/pogroms being planned.

Expediting court cases to crack down on race riots doesn’t seem like a controversial move.

Expediting court cases doesn’t mean that the government will be impacting the sentencing of those found guilty though, unless they pass new laws which can be applied retroactively, which is deeply unlikely.
 
You're blinded by hatred of the police.

You can respect authority/day-to-day policing but have a healthy cynicism of the state.

So if I went outside for a second walk during Covid in 2020 *gasp*, I can loathe the state for their nonsense but respect the police officer and follow his/her instruction to go home.
I am deeply affected by police brutality, their purposeful neglect of the law, their ability to shut up shop and circle the wagons against their victims and investigators, as well as the misogyny and homophobia 'the force' prides itself upon.

For you perhaps that is hatred, I see endemic corruption, that they have learned to enjoy from the example of their masters.


Your dearly sainted and ever trustworthy police held the door open for these...
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great britain is a disaster of a country. the sooner it sinks the better.
 
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