Current Affairs Race wars, neo-nazis and other unpleasantness

[turner]

Ridiculous BBC newsbar says 147 arrests in UK far-right protests surely these are riots, utterly farcical morally inept the BBC has become its pursuit of balanced news.

Riot Compensation Act 2016

www.legislation.gov.uk

From my limited understanding, this act states that business owners etc can claim directly from the police for damages caused by riots. Therefore the state is not keen to label things as riots because they'll be on the hook for damages.

 

[bluerobert]

He always threatened that he had a cunning plan to be fair to him

 

[Damo_1878]

You repeat the same talking points over and over and over again, you discuss in very bad faith, a lot like Trump and Farage.

Behave yourself @Goat

 

[Damo_1878]

Listen to yourself. You're advocating giving the far right a voice.

I'm advocating out manoeuvring them

Out debating them etc

Like I do on this fine forum all the time to the haters

@Goat knows

 

[Damo_1878]

I read a cracking piece years ago by a barrister who had defended people he knew to have been murderers and the like. Basically said that despite how uneasy it felt, it was important that they got proper decent representation so that when they were found guilty, all concerned knew justice had been done.

I wouldn't want to live in a country where we decided that some types or groups of people weren't worth protecting under the law.

This one?

 

[magicjuan]

I'm advocating out manoeuvring them

Out debating them etc

Like I do on this fine forum all the time to the haters

@Goat knows

Not likely, I'd liken you to thrush. Extremely irritable and difficult to get rid of.

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

I wish people would stop going on about “the Russian agenda” - yes, he has some links there but it’s not Russia who invites him to speak at their biggest annual RW jamboree, it’s not Russia who funds him and his ilk, it’s not the Russian president he pals around with, it’s not Russian political manipulators he works with and it’s not going to be Russian oligarchs and firms that he’d bend over backwards for if he ever got into power.

If you think Russia and other affiliated state actors have been sitting off innocently then I would respectfully suggest that you have a very naive view of geopolitics. Yes, it is a picture of many moving parts but Russia has been seeding this for many years.

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

That’s remarkable then because it’s the US right wing who have been doing all this since before Putin got into power.

He typed Russia, not Putin.

 

[Damo_1878]

If you think Russia and other affiliated state actors have been sitting off innocently then I would respectfully suggest that you have a very naive view of geopolitics. Yes, it is a picture of many moving parts but Russia has been seeding this for many years.

They have and have been very open about that and even more so post the full scale Ukraine invasion

We are in a new Cold War. People just haven't woken up to that fact yet

That

 

[spectateur]

If you think Russia and other affiliated state actors have been sitting off innocently then I would respectfully suggest that you have a very naive view of geopolitics. Yes, it is a picture of many moving parts but Russia has been seeding this for many years.

Good to see somebody else is aware of Russian involvement in destabilising the west.
Putin is suspected of being behind the anarchists who bring violence to demonstrations in continental Europe and quite likely in UK.

 

[tsubaki]

If you think Russia and other affiliated state actors have been sitting off innocently then I would respectfully suggest that you have a very naive view of geopolitics. Yes, it is a picture of many moving parts but Russia has been seeding this for many years.

Where did I say I thought they had been?

I just think its laughable that certain people on here want to ignore the two elephants in the dirty room that is British political lobbying, in favour of sagely commenting "Russia" every time someone objectionable surfaces. Russian money plays an influence in our politics (albeit less now than it was), but it is nowhere near as influential as US money is. Most of Tufton Street runs on that money; which means most of the policies adopted by the Tories (and New Labour) come from that source. Then there is social media.

 

[Xizor]

This one?

You think I read that years ago when it was posted on Saturday?

No, this wasn't linked to any specific event happening, it was just something a barrister had written in an article about what it was like to defend someone of a serious crime who they believed was guilty. How they could make the arguments knowing that it was running the risk of getting someone out of punishment.

 

[Noisy noise annoys]

They have and have been very open about that and even more so post the full scale Ukraine invasion

We are in a new Cold War. People just haven't woken up to that fact yet

That

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People woke up to this ages ago ffs

Hitler invades Poland coming up

 

[Amw79]

You think I read that years ago when it was posted on Saturday?

No, this wasn't linked to any specific event happening, it was just something a barrister had written in an article about what it was like to defend someone of a serious crime who they believed was guilty. How they could make the arguments knowing that it was running the risk of getting someone out of punishment.

I remember reading something about the ethics of defence lawyers a while ago.

The principle is give people the best defence possible, even if you know they’re guilty, and a conviction is then much stronger, if they then go on to appeal.

Do a half arsed job of defence, and it’s an easy overturn for a court of appeal.

 

[efcste97]

TIK History on YouTube is revealing his true colours by claiming that Starmer is a 'fascist.' surprising given that he has previously dedicated countless hours to pointing out the misuse of the term 'fascist.'