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great signing - class act!
SheedyBracewellReidSteven
Player Valuation: £750k
This is one for real club experts and historians......we had a lad called Dave Carter on our schoolboy books in the early and mid 80s. He went to De La Salle School and was the midfield general of their school team which reached the English Schools FA Cup final in 1984. He played for England Schoolboys as well. Everyone raved about him.....he was the next Gazza before there even was a Gazza, according to most people. I know all this because a good mate was in the same school team.
The club binned him off somewhere around 85/86 after numerous warnings about his fitness, commitment etc....he'd discovered fags and ale and footie fell down his list of priorities. It had started when he was at school and everyone was on his back then about not wasting his talent and his chance.
He ended up at the same university as me and (small world) I played against him in a kick about one day. Even though he hadn't played for a while, was about 3 or 4 stone overweight, smoked like a chimney and drank enough ale to sink a battleship, he was just ridiculously ridiculously good. It wasn't exactly top class opposition admittedly, but you could just see that the guy was amazing despite the circumstances.
He didn't seem too bothered about how everything turned out. It's mad, because you average bloke in the street would give their right arms to be that good and have that chance.....
Niall Kingdom
Player Valuation: £225k
Players I doubted:-
Limpar- I thought when we signed him, we have just picked up a duff old bloke from a boring aresnal side, proved me wrong
Cahill-didn't watch much championship football, thought we were just picking up a squad player.
Vincent Samways- I didnt think we needed his type at the time
Nigel Martyn-thought he was done, hence leaving leeds.
players I thought were going to be the ****:-
Billy, Beattie, linderoth, rodrigo, de silva, koldrup, bosnar, madar, simon davies, and the list goes on
Limpar- I thought when we signed him, we have just picked up a duff old bloke from a boring aresnal side, proved me wrong
Cahill-didn't watch much championship football, thought we were just picking up a squad player.
Vincent Samways- I didnt think we needed his type at the time
Nigel Martyn-thought he was done, hence leaving leeds.
players I thought were going to be the ****:-
Billy, Beattie, linderoth, rodrigo, de silva, koldrup, bosnar, madar, simon davies, and the list goes on
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throughthewindandthedrain
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must happen so often. I suppose we would give anything to be in their shoes but being great at something might not mean there is the same love of it I suppose. I played regularly with a lad who was on Stoke's books I think with Bracewell and Heath as a teenager. Didn't even go off the rails or anything, he just decided he wanted to prove himself in other ways and went to college to do something like business studies. was in a decent council job. happy as anything. suppose when we played you could just tell he had several other gears to go into but tended to play well within himself. if someone on the other team was taking the piss he would literally just accelerate past them like they weren't there and slot home like a pass, no tricks or anything just pure class. I suppose ten years or so later just staying in the Stoke squad may have meant he was made for life and he might have thought differently
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throughthewindandthedrain
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who was that lad who was on our books who won some kind of skill tournament and was doing tricks at Wembley before a final or something. was wonderful to hear people who couldn't wait to see that on the pitch and the older heads just thinking they had seen it all before and lets see him do that in front of a nasty arse centre half. Jimmy Rimmer springs to mind but may have just made that up
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throughthewindandthedrain
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wasn't jimmy rimmer...jimmy something though
SheedyBracewellReidSteven
Player Valuation: £750k
I think you've made a key point there - you can be an average squad player journeyman type in the EPL and as long as you can play enough years, you are financially set for life as long as you don't have a gambling/booze problem or Bernie Madoff as your financial advisor. You read stories about the older ex-pros (Kevin Beattie springs to mind) running pubs, selling double glazing etc because wages in those days were nothing special compared to today's.
Toffeelover
Player Valuation: £80m
Sylvain Distin
James McFadden. I bought the hype and thought we had the "Scottish Rooney".
Also Bilyaletdinov. I really thought he could be world class. Still wish he had been given the chance behind the striker but either way a major disappointment.
Also Bilyaletdinov. I really thought he could be world class. Still wish he had been given the chance behind the striker but either way a major disappointment.
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throughthewindandthedrain
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actually met a guy couple years ago living in a small flat with his brother trying to pay off council tax. no means of income. realised I had seen this guy play in the top flight maybe around the early nineties. cant say name or team and he was nothing special, squad player in lower mid table team. just hadn't saved or put money into any business. couldn't help think if he had been playing few years later then he couldn't have got into trouble. to be honest I don't even think I could spend the money they are on if I tried, even with a booze or gambling addiction
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throughthewindandthedrain
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suppose in terms of the standards of Scotland team at moment he maybe 'the Scottish Rooney'
orly
Please check with me for Blammo criteria
It's funny though mate, about seven years ago I saw a Liverpool player settle a £2700 bar bill with five grand and instruct them to keep the change... Utterly mental, you can see why these lads burn through their money. lampard owns a large amount of property but they are all mortgaged - what if he has a run of defaults or a huge property crash? In reality these lads should be set for life after one Premier League contract, but they reckon a decent number go under.
Briefly on topic: I thought Bily was going to be a world beater, think I watched him away at Hull and couldn't believe what he seemed capable of. Sadly, he never truly delivered, but scored some cracking goals and I always hoped he'd make it!
SheedyBracewellReidSteven
Player Valuation: £750k
I agree. They will be taking home a ridiculous amount of money even after tax and all other expenses. You really do have to be a knobcheese to screw that up. Jeez, even 40k a week - how can you spend all of that?
Love that George Best quote though. "Over the years I spent a lot of money on fast cars, booze and women. The rest I just wasted."
Sorry, will try to get back on topic now!
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throughthewindandthedrain
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yeah its difficult to say was disappointed with Billy. just amazed that we couldn't get enough out of him. must have knocked his confidence to [Poor language removed] judging by his career since
Kurt.
Player Valuation: £100m
Any Financial advisor would probably tell you to always get a mortgage.
If you have 1 million in the bank it earns a good whack of interest.
If you have 1 million in your bank but you buy a house for say 200k and pay cash for it you now only have 800k in the bank and lose a huge pile in interest payments.
Always better to mortgage as the interest alone on your money in the bank will probably pay the mortgage anyway.
I think.
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