HAHAHAHAHA. He saved 11 out of 35 penalties faced for us - not including a couple of others in shoot outs - if you think that's pretty poor you're setting quite astonishing standards.
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Would rather have Michael Howard in goal than see him back.
...at his best over 3/4 of his Everton career I felt safe with Howard. I don’t yet feel that way with Pickford, although I appreciate better judges than me say he’s going to be very special. I’m content that we have him but the question does not ask who will be the best.
It was nice knowing you @ijjysmith.
It was nice knowing you @ijjysmith.
II McColl II
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Personally i'd take Martyn over either of them from what i can remember of him coming towards the end of his career with us.
Out of Howard and Pickford they both have limitations but i'd prefer Pickford for what he could be in the next few years.
Howard's limitations were notably long shots and any kind of cross in to the box. Pickford's are down to the ongoing joke of him having little arm's that could well end up being something that never improves but given he's only 24 it could also be a positional issue that will only improve with experience and top class coaching, i think in terms of reaction saves and general ability Pickford's at a similar standard and nowhere near his prime yet compared to Howard in his prime years for us.
Howard also had a significantly better set up defence in near enough his entire time with us until the Martinez era.
Out of Howard and Pickford they both have limitations but i'd prefer Pickford for what he could be in the next few years.
Howard's limitations were notably long shots and any kind of cross in to the box. Pickford's are down to the ongoing joke of him having little arm's that could well end up being something that never improves but given he's only 24 it could also be a positional issue that will only improve with experience and top class coaching, i think in terms of reaction saves and general ability Pickford's at a similar standard and nowhere near his prime yet compared to Howard in his prime years for us.
Howard also had a significantly better set up defence in near enough his entire time with us until the Martinez era.
ijjysmith
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You needed serious help eggo.
Vegas Toffee Girl
Player Valuation: £8m
Howard, but I think they are almost even at this point. Howard had a better defense in front of him.
The binman chronicles
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That is the key point. I shudder to think what Howard would have done under our defence over the last couple of years. Howard was a good keeper when he first joined but he couldn't make stops like Pickford did at the world cup.
Arteta2391
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The binman chronicles
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Have you never seen the superman back header clearance before? You learn that on day 1 at keeper school...
Howard was a very good shot stopper but awful at coming off his line. Pickford is also a very good shot stopper but has dropped a few clangers coming off his line also. Howard's distribution wasnt great but Pickford's is superior apart from when he is hitting it to Yarmalenko.
Howard a scored a goal in the prem so his goalscoring record swings it for me.
Howard a scored a goal in the prem so his goalscoring record swings it for me.
ijjysmith
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I just don’t remember Pickford dropping that many ‘clangers’.
No more than De Gea does. Or Ederson. Or any of the top 6 keepers.
But what about his goalscoring record ?
Blues Harp
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Howard was ok until Martinez took his defence away...but hardly ranks with Southall, Martyn, etc . Pickford will hopefully improve as he gets older.
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