2018/19 Phil Jagielka

[Tubey]

I’ve watched that challenge about 20 times. Disgraceful decision in my opinion. He goes in to win the ball, wins it, slight contact on the player after contact with the ball. Foul? I don’t think so. Red for denying a goal scoring opportunity? Never in a million years for me.

I don’t care how many disagree with me. You’re all wrong!

The rule is you've got to be in control of the tackle, and if you aren't and the studs make contact because you've overstretched then it's reckless and dangerous play. Jagielka is overstretched and he's studs up into the shin/upper ankle of the player, and had no control over the tackle.

So it's a definite straight red by that rule.

It's also definitely denying a goalscoring opportunity because the ball has ran loose and the oncoming player is in behind if he isn't taken out. Jagielka is the last man.

So it's a definite straight red by that rule.

You have to judge it by how the game is, not how you wish it was. The rules are clear on it - it's a red card.

 

[Norwegian Cow]

for those saying it wasnt a red

 

[Osamabindiesel]

I don’t think Wolves score if this moment never happened. They had absolutely no sting going forward. It was possession footy without any end product. This just reminds me of calamity Jags from Koeman’s first season. He was dropped that year for that reason. We surely can’t keep this guy in the 1st team.

 

[BirkenheadBlue]

Bad initial mistake? Absolutely.

But that’s the only part of that incident where he did anything wrong. Actually hadn’t been having a bad game up til that point.

 

[BirkenheadBlue]

for those saying it wasnt a red

Because still images of incidents are ALWAYS so representative of what happened.

 

[Chimpy Glassman]

Never a red. But it was of his own making.

 

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

The rule is you've got to be in control of the tackle, and if you aren't and the studs make contact because you've overstretched then it's reckless and dangerous play. Jagielka is overstretched and he's studs up into the shin/upper ankle of the player, and had no control over the tackle.

So it's a definite straight red by that rule.

It's also definitely denying a goalscoring opportunity because the ball has ran loose and the oncoming player is in behind if he isn't taken out. Jagielka is the last man.

So it's a definite straight red by that rule.

You have to judge it by how the game is, not how you wish it was. The rules are clear on it - it's a red card.

The funny thing is we'll see tackles not as bad as that on our players this season, and we'll all be frothing at the mouth if it's not a red card.

 

[Goat]

Bad initial mistake? Absolutely.

But that’s the only part of that incident where he did anything wrong. Actually hadn’t been having a bad game up til that point.

Agreed, look hes probably 4th choice from this point on, hes not the reason he got sent off.

 

[tsubaki]

Noone likes to see someones career come to an end but that must be it for him now, thanks for everything Jags.

 

[tim cahill]

The rule is you've got to be in control of the tackle, and if you aren't and the studs make contact because you've overstretched then it's reckless and dangerous play. Jagielka is overstretched and he's studs up into the shin/upper ankle of the player, and had no control over the tackle.

So it's a definite straight red by that rule.

It's also definitely denying a goalscoring opportunity because the ball has ran loose and the oncoming player is in behind if he isn't taken out. Jagielka is the last man.

So it's a definite straight red by that rule.

You have to judge it by how the game is, not how you wish it was. The rules are clear on it - it's a red card.

WRONG

 

[Tubey]

The funny thing is we'll see tackles not as bad as that on our players this season, and we'll all be frothing at the mouth if it's not a red card.

Yeah bias is what it is. It's understandable like, but I always try and think how I'd feel if it was the other way.

Personally, I called that a red before the card was out of the referees pocket. It was that obvious.

 

[Rudolf Hucker]

Hope we offload him this month. Back to Sheffield Utd or somewhere.

 

[tsubaki]

The funny thing is we'll see tackles not as bad as that on our players this season, and we'll all be frothing at the mouth if it's not a red card.

like the massive campaign against simulation last season that saw dozens if not hundreds of players get away with something only Niasse got banned for

 

[ToffeeTim]

That was a great challenge he put in. Mentally soft home town reffing.

 

[Goat]

Everybody claiming its a red will need to apologise to Jags on Twitter when we win the appeal.