Patience

Are we too demanding and unrealistic


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How many people have begged for a season of mid-table mediocrity after the last years of stress and pain? Long term we need to look forward, but a season of consolidation for now is not the end of the world. We are inconsistent and have had some injuries. But a half decent end of the season could yet see a push into the european spots.

I'm calm for now, but the jury is still out on the Friedkins for me and the recruitment needs to improve. But it's night and day from only 18 months ago.
 
Somehow people are actually more insane this season than then relegation seasons, I assumed this was the season where you didn't know the KO time, the other fixtures, the injuries Luton have and the air pressure in Southampton
 
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How many people have begged for a season of mid-table mediocrity after the last years of stress and pain? Long term we need to look forward, but a season of consolidation for now is not the end of the world. We are inconsistent and have had some injuries. But a half decent end of the season could yet see a push into the european spots.

I'm calm for now, but the jury is still out on the Friedkins for me and the recruitment needs to improve. But it's night and day from only 18 months ago.

100%.

We're all frustrated at a number of really lacklustre performances and some downright horrible ones, when we can also pull off unlikely victories away from home.

But this is all in the context of us circling the drain for years and near disaster. The outlook is so much better than it was a little over a year ago and we are going in the right direction, at the same it doesn't mean are jubilant with the thought of finishing 11th and thinking we should be satisfied with it. Both aspects can be true at the same time.
 
The club has been broken by a succession of bad decisions and bad luck. We were lucky it wasn't relegated and destroyed entirely. We are still here at the top table. It will obviously take time to recover properly.

People complaining now are like those blaming Labour for pot holes and illegal immigration, even though both of those are slowly improving after being caused by 15 or so years of tory neglect, negligence and ineptitude.

Great post, mate 👍
 
What are we supposed to be patient about right now? We have an old manager playing the same style he has for the last two decades plus and choosing, when fit, one of the oldest teams in the league. How exactly does this get better in a few years?

I’d love to be patient as the club progresses. They have to make decisions that allow for it as well.
 
Patience is the ability to endure difficult situations or delays without becoming angry or anxious. It involves maintaining calmness and self-control in the face of challenges.



That would be the death of the internet..
 
A bit like the Labour Party analogy earlier in the thread I just want to see signs that we're moving in the right direction. The Labour party won't tax the rich or stand up to the big city firms and big housebuilders, and David Moyes won't play with attacking fullbacks or have a plan that enables us to beat the worst teams at home. If I see signs of those things happening then I'll be patient with Everton and the Labour Party, if I don't I'll want a change of leadership at both.
 
Just seen this interesting post and it made me think.



Do you think we as Evertonians on here are unrealistic in our demands? That we demand crushing exceptionalism from all which stifles breathing space for young humans to develop, gain confidence and perform? Or should we remain steadfast to a Latin motto on which our club was formed a few centuries ago?

I can’t work it out.
Mods, please delete, this post is not NSNO.

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I think from a long term point of view we have every reason to expect more. We have been underperforming as a club for nearly 40 years.

However from a shorter term perspective I find the vindication of certain players to be detrimental to the club. I think it needs to be remembered sometimes that these players are young lads often in early to mid twenties. They havnt developed the kind of mental skills to cope with the kind of negativity they receive far too regularly from our fanbase.

I'll use Mcneil and Dibling as examples. Mcneil can be effective when his confidence is high, yet the minute in a home game that he loses the ball you can audibly hear the groans and you can see the lad just start playing within himself. By doing that the boo boys are hurting Evertons chances. The same can be said of Dibling. These lads need support and to feel loved. Its no surprise Mcneil has turned up well in away games and so has Dibling.

I mean its natural isnt it, if you feel like the minute you try something and it doesnt work that your own fans will heckle you, your probably going to play within yourself arent you.
Sorry, nobody can excuse Mc Neil for not tracking back last night or bottling a 60/40 challenge in his favour. He is a disgrace to the jersey; the minimum requirement is effort.
 

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