On football and identity: what does it mean to be a female Muslim football fan?

[Fensta]

Started out as a decent article then went downhill, the end was silly. Good luck to her but keep yer ranting to yaself missus.

 

[Moomin]

Some people **** off football and sport, but its the only thing that brings people of all faiths, colours and gender together.

 

[bicycleheader]

Sociopathy is thought to be 50:50 in the population of all sociopaths. Just the majority identified are male. The females hide better.

It's just female sociopathic behaviour isn't identified. Or is looked at by society as being ok. Or gets sympathy.

Since they play to gender preconceptions particularly the 'weaker sex' one to illicit sympathy.

The damage caused is as bad as male sociopathy.


Again. Not sure why she's linked Everton to all this.

Is it not simply because she is writing about her experience, and she is an Everton fan??

 

[EFCNIK]

Started off really well but then descended into another white people are bad and we should all understand other cultures better and that all immigrants try to do is blend in article.

It's a bit racist if you ask me actually.

NEXT.

 

[bicycleheader]

Started off really well but then descended into another white people are bad and we should all understand other cultures better and that all immigrants try to do is blend in.

NEXT.

History does suggest white people are kind of bad though....

Lets face it, we should all be shot. White males, a plague on the earth.

And yes people should try to open their minds a bit, but no she has not said all immigrants try to do is blend in. She wrote from her experience of life in the UK.

 

[Whitebootman]

Though provoking article by Sanaa Qureshi. I wonder how I would cope in similar circumstances. We have a long journey to travel before we all see our shared beliefs as more valuable than our differences. Hopefully I will live to see this happen. Thank you Sanaa.

 

[allen]

Started off really well but then descended into another white people are bad and we should all understand other cultures better and that all immigrants try to do is blend in article.

It's a bit racist if you ask me actually.

NEXT.

Easy to say stuff like that when you're in the huge majority.

Great article, I thought.

 

[dholliday]

Easy to say stuff like that when you're in the huge majority.

Great article, I thought.

agreed. Be great if she comes here to debate, I almost thought janaaa was her earlier.

 

[EFCNIK]

History does suggest white people are kind of bad though....

Lets face it, we should all be shot. White males, a plague on the earth.

And yes people should try to open their minds a bit, but no she has not said all immigrants try to do is blend in. She wrote from her experience of life in the UK.

I could pull current stories (countless) about how people from her culture are bad but I don't judge her by the actions of even quite a sizeable minority.

 

[bicycleheader]

I could pull current stories (countless) about how people from her culture are bad but I don't judge her by the actions of even quite a sizeable minority.

simplified nonsense. she didnt just say "people from such and such culture are bad"...she wrote it all from her experience. Her feelings and observations from a life as a female muslim growing up in the UK. She hasn't posited a generalised view on your favourite theme.

 

[EFCNIK]

simplified nonsense. she didnt just say "people from such and such culture are bad"...she wrote it all from her experience. Her feelings and observations from a life as a female muslim growing up in the UK. She hasn't posited a generalised view on your favourite theme.

She's been to one game at home so she has hardly any basis for her convictions that she would be racially abused by 'white males'.

She'll get plaudits for this but all it seemed to descend into was a rant about British culture which is a million times more tolerant than many others out there. Racism does still exists but it's no where near as prevailant as it used to be.

I'd like to take her to an Everton match and show her that HER prejudices are unfounded rather than being told (repeatedly) that ours are.

 

[dholliday]

I could pull current stories (countless) about how people from her culture are bad but I don't judge her by the actions of even quite a sizeable minority.

You're making it into an us & them, when a better response would be to show Sanaa that as blues we're the same. We should be encouraging blurring of the cultural lines amongst Evertonians.

 

[dholliday]

She's been to one game at home so she has hardly any basis for her convictions that she would be racially abused by 'white males'.

She'll get plaudits for this but all it seemed to descend into was a rant about British culture which is a million times more tolerant than many others out there. Racism does still exists but it's no where near as prevailant as it used to be.

I'd like to take her to an Everton match and show her that HER prejudices are unfounded rather than being told (repeatedly) that ours are.

This post I agree with, tho'.

 

[EFCNIK]

You're making it into an us & them, when a better response would be to show Sanaa that as blues we're the same. We should be encouraging blurring of the cultural lines amongst Evertonians.

I actually think she's the one that does just that.

She's probably a lovely lady and she is a blue so you're right when I say 'us' I'll always include her in that, but these kind of articles that are really really not uncommon these days do nothing but divide.

She has generalised and stereotyped something which if a white person did, they would be chastised. Equality is a two way street and at the moment it really isn't.

 

[dholliday]

I actually think she's the one that does just that.

She's probably a lovely lady and she is a blue so you're right when I say 'us' I'll always include her in that, but these kind of articles that are really really not uncommon these days do nothing but divide.

She has generalised and stereotyped something which if a white person did, they would be chastised. Equality is a two way street and at the moment it really isn't.

She is, the "white supremacy" comment revealed it. I agree with this post of yours too. I'm saying that our response doesn't have to be on that level of us & them (which your first couple of posts were).

She just needs a good cuddle xx


*cue cries of sexism