On football and identity: what does it mean to be a female Muslim football fan?

[tsubaki]

Not sure about the white supremacy bit, lets face it Naismith is the whitest player in the league and noone would ever describe him as being supreme.

 

[dholliday]

Like a lot of modern feminists (brown or otherwise), there's a militancy in their preaching. A distrust of men in general, entirely unfounded by reason. But we being the reasonable men we are should just calmly debate, rather than clash. In time, even the most ultra of feminists will calm down and warm up a little.

Modern feminists, whatever their colour or ethnicity, are militant and harbour an unfounded distrust of men? You can dismiss the thoughts and feelings of millions of women in a few broad brush strokes?

Jesus.

ay up, janaaa kiddaaa...i reckon you should quote my bit, otherwise it looks like you wrote it


Anyway, I said "most" modern feminists. That's the impression I get anyway if The Guardian's Comment is Free is anything to go by.

What say you?

 

[lmurkder]

It's actually not. Violent behaviour inherently exists more in men than women.

That, coupled with the extra physical strength of men, is the reason why violence againt women is a real problem.

We're talking about sociopathy.

They're socialised psychopaths.

Who needs violence when there's other methods to damage other people with no conscience.

 

[Allezfan]

Godwin??

Some of these comments (including mine) needs some links to back up da stats.

Rape happens to 1 in every 5 women: Source: http://www.rapecrisis.org.uk/Statistics2.php.

1 in 4 women are abused by their partner: Source: http://www.eurowrc.org/02.faq/faq_en_canada/03.faq_en_canada.htm.

Every single society in over 10,000 years of human civilization whether past or present has treat women worse than men. Source: a basic knowledge of history.

 

[dholliday]

We're talking about sociopathy.

They're socialised psychopaths.

Who needs violence when there's other methods to damage other people with no conscience.

We're talking about violence againt women, tho'. You're playing strawman talking about something else.

 

[janaaa]

Yeah I ballsed that up but seriously that's the most patronising thing i ever read in my life!

 

[Sheedy's Third]

Two things , It must be hard being a muslim woman in England full stop in todays political climate ,never mind being a blue as well.
The other thing is this really the right place for this thread? Surley the ale house would be better.

 

[dholliday]

Rape happens to 1 in every 5 women: Source: http://www.rapecrisis.org.uk/Statistics2.php.

1 in 4 women are abused by their partner: Source: http://www.eurowrc.org/02.faq/faq_en_canada/03.faq_en_canada.htm.

Every single society in over 10,000 years of human civilization whether past or present has treat women worse than men. Source: a basic knowledge of history.

I agree with the last sentence anyway. But the stats I have to admit are shocking!

Shameful behaviour from any man who physically abuses a woman, and shameful on society as a whole if it really is that common.

But even then, those stats don't necessarily mean 1 in 5 men beat up on women. It means (if true) that 1 in 5 women have experienced a beating in their lifetime.

My 99% stat of all men are good may not be that far off.

 

[dholliday]

Yeah I ballsed that up but seriously that's the most patronising thing i ever read in my life!

Fine, so what's your angle? I'm always up to change my views on things if the counter-argument is more convincing than my own.

 

[Azzurri]

Rape happens to 1 in every 5 women: Source: http://www.rapecrisis.org.uk/Statistics2.php.

1 in 4 women are abused by their partner: Source: http://www.eurowrc.org/02.faq/faq_en_canada/03.faq_en_canada.htm.

Every single society in over 10,000 years of human civilization whether past or present has treat women worse than men. Source: a basic knowledge of history.

Does giving your bird a dead arm when she tries to take one of your chips count?

 

[Allezfan]

Does giving your bird a dead arm when she tries to take one of your chips count?

I think she can count herself lucky, tbh.

Chip stealers should be ritually murdered.

 

[Waltontoffee]

Anyway Cliff Marshall was black and joined us in 1973. Plus Trebilcock was coloured and joined in 65.

100% of women are snakes with tits.

 

[Allezfan]

100% of women are snakes with tits.

100% of reptiles genetically modified for work in the porn industry are snakes with tits.

 

[dholliday]

those stats don't necessarily mean 1 in 5 men beat up on women. It means (if true) that 1 in 5 women have experienced a beating in their lifetime.

My 99% stat of all men are good may not be that far off.

But another way:

20% of all women will experience physical abuse in their lifetime.
A woman will know about 20 men of note in her lifetime (conservative estimate).

Thus...1% of all men abuse women. Leaving 99% as the good eggs. Meaning modern feminism's distrust of all (or most) men may not be that justified.

 

[Big Doug]

Rape happens to 1 in every 5 women: Source: http://www.rapecrisis.org.uk/Statistics2.php.

1 in 4 women are abused by their partner: Source: http://www.eurowrc.org/02.faq/faq_en_canada/03.faq_en_canada.htm.

Every single society in over 10,000 years of human civilization whether past or present has treat women worse than men. Source: a basic knowledge of history.

doesn't help that our ****house justice system and parole boards lets these scum rapists and abusers out of prison, look at that fella just released a few days/weeks ago kidnapping that woman and raping her repeatedly, he's been let out in the past for similar offences serving 3-4 years absolute scandal. wouldn't piss on a judge/parole board member if they were on fire