Nikica Jelavic

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But hes not even bringing him on. Lift the burden

It makes no sense to keep hold of Velios if he's not getting on as sub ahead of Naismith. One senior striker is in horrendous form for months on end and the other is injured. Why is Velios even named on the bench? He has no intention of using hm so send him on loan.

I think the LC match against Leeds was Moyes' defining moment with younger players: he concluded from that they cant be called upon...when in reality it was the number of changes he rang for that game that did for us.
 
I'm not degrading your opinion - I'm saying what you said is completely invalid so as to not even constitute an opinion.

It's like me saying milk tastes like onions or something. It's that stupid.

lol Mourinho's apprentice has arrived.

Setting your patronising, abrasive tone & attitute to one side, you patently didn't understand the very simple point I made.

As a striker creating space for himself or getting in decent positions, ultimately means nothing if their finishing is consistently dire.

If you can't understand that basic principle then you're not quite the tactics guru that you appear to think you are. :lol:
 
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It makes no sense to keep hold of Velios if he's not getting on as sub ahead of Naismith. One senior striker is in horrendous form for months on end and the other is injured. Why is Velios even named on the bench? He has no intention of using hm so send him on loan.

I think the LC match against Leeds was Moyes' defining moment with younger players: he concluded from that they cant be called upon...when in reality it was the number of changes he rang for that game that did for us.

very true and poor junior seems to have been made the scapegoat for that defeat, has he even been on the bench since???
 
lol Mourinho's apprentice has arrived.

Setting your patronising, abrasive tone & attitute to one side, you patently didn't understand the very simple point I made.

As a striker creating space for himself or getting in decent positions, ultimately means nothing if their finishing is consistently dire.

If you can't understand that basic principle then you're not quite the tactics guru that you appear to think you are. :lol:

You don't have to be Alf Ramsey to know that if somebody says movement means nothing to a strikers performance that they're talking nonsense. It's like saying every time a winger puts in a cross, if it doesn't connect with a striker then it doesn't count when analysing a performance.

It's 1+1=2 stuff. You're an idiot if you don't see it; again, I can't sugarcoat that sentence. The only way to explain someone discounting good movement when analysing a strikers performance is if they're a complete idiot.
 
lol Mourinho's apprentice has arrived.

Setting your patronising, abrasive tone & attitute to one side, you patently didn't understand the very simple point I made.

As a striker creating space for himself or getting in decent positions, ultimately means nothing if their finishing is consistently dire.

If you can't understand that basic principle then you're not quite the tactics guru that you appear to think you are. :lol:

Jelavic's movement got us the third goal last night like, their keeper was caught in two minds whether to go near or far post and ended up doing neither.
 
Jelavic's movement got us the third goal last night like, their keeper was caught in two minds whether to go near or far post and ended up doing neither.

Common sense isn't it?

Also, the penalty. If Jelavic isn't in the middle and hauled down, the ball doesn't travel to the next man and the handball doesn't occur.

But apparently, because he didn't score and got hauled down instead, we may as well completely ignore that ever happened.

Lunacy.
 
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You don't have to be Alf Ramsey to know that if somebody says movement means nothing to a strikers performance that they're talking nonsense. It's like saying every time a winger puts in a cross, if it doesn't connect with a striker then it doesn't count when analysing a performance.

It's 1+1=2 stuff. You're an idiot if you don't see it; again, I can't sugarcoat that sentence. The only way to explain someone discounting good movement when analysing a strikers performance is if they're a complete idiot.

Who discounted good movement?

I said that without a finish it ultimately means nothing, which is a cast iron fact.

You could have a striker who had fantastic movement & 2 left feet, so despite his great movement, he'd ultimately be a crap striker.

& you have the temerity to call me an idiot??? lol, sugarcoat that lad.
 
Jelavic's movement got us the third goal last night like, their keeper was caught in two minds whether to go near or far post and ended up doing neither.

Jelavic was looking to score himself & missed the ball ffs!

It was merely good fortune that his mis-cue wrong footed the keeper who anticipated he'd divert Osmans header goalwards.
 
Who discounted good movement?

Errr... you.

An intelligent run that creates space means nothing without a finish to take advantage of it

I assume "means nothing" has some hitherto unknown meaning in your world.

And once again, your chronic lack of footballing knowledge on show:

Jelavic was looking to score himself & missed the ball ffs!

It was merely good fortune that his mis-cue wrong footed the keeper who anticipated he'd divert Osmans header goalwards.

The run to get in to the position to distract the 'keeper wasn't "good fortune", it was intended. He didn't just wonder into that role aimlessly for a laugh.
 
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Going back to that defeat at Leeds.It does indeed appear that the younger players were largely blamed for that.However,it would be interesting to look at Fellainis performance that night.For eighty minutes he really looked and played as if he didn't want to be there.On that performance he wouldn't be seen again if he had been a youngster thrown into the team.
He wasn't the only senior player who let the youngsters down that night.

Regarding Duffy,it does look as if his best chance of a game is a loan or the manager leaving.Last night,we all knew what we were going to face when Smith came on,we all knew we haven't dealt with these challenges well all season.We have one central defender physically able to cope with the challenges thata player like Smith provides...but not if he is sitting on the bench.

I am ambivalent about Vellios,he has done well in some of his cameo performances for the first team,but often doesn't seem interested in reserve matches.I think he is a player that needs a tremendous kick up the arse.
 
Jelavic was looking to score himself & missed the ball ffs!

It was merely good fortune that his mis-cue wrong footed the keeper who anticipated he'd divert Osmans header goalwards.

Yeah, it's not as if he dummied it. He just missed. Everyone should have good movement versus Oldham, we're a top tier club for crying out loud.
 
Should have had an assist and a goal last night, both didn't happen because of a crap finish from Gibson and a terrible pass from the wing (think it was Pienaar) when he had ghosted into loads of space in the box and the ball got pinged a yard behind him.

He's not playing badly at all, he's just not scoring. And yes, there is a difference.
 
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Should have had an assist and a goal last night, both didn't happen because of a crap finish from Gibson and a terrible pass from the wing (think it was Pienaar) when he had ghosted into loads of space on the box and the ball got pinged a yard behind him.

He's not playing badly at all, he's just not scoring. And yes, there is a difference.

Stop talking sense lad. Jelavic is proper dog turd and we all know it.
Nah seriously, agree with everything.

His poor form this season will be forgotten if he scores the winner at Wembley and we lift the cup.
 
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