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No but to say Moyes ruined them 4 is harsh. If you don't have millions to spend it's very rare you find a top, top striker and we've got very lucky in getting Jelavic for so cheap.
Beattie was poor, Johnson wasn't brilliant and was sold for a good price, Yakubu got a very bad injury and Saha was probably finished most of the time he's been here. Moyes' fault? maybe in signing Beattie though to say he actually "ruined" them is harsh imo.
Dom1878
Player Valuation: £60m
To be perfectly honest, i think he ruined them all when he brought in another striker. The 4-5-1 is the only formation we play so its inevitable that one striker goes out of form. So imo he does ruin them - but at the same time strengthens the team also...
Got to say Moyes does get a good price for them though.
Abraders
Player Valuation: £60m
Like others have said. Beattie was bad, maybe Moyes is the reason we even got 1 good season out of him?
Yak got injured, why don't people recognise that.
AJ wasn't as bad as people think, he's not exactly set the world alight since leaving us either. He developed a new role and it worked, we made a profit too so he obviously wasn't ruined.
Saha was ruined before he came, Moyes gave him confidence to score and play and he did. Eventually he became lazy and changed the way he plays to protect himself.
I think most people's criticisms of Moyes when it comes to strikers is that he likes them to play in a very specific manner in usually a 4-5-1 formation. That's fine if you've got a player like Marcus Bent who will run all day but with players like Saha and Yakubu that just wasn't going to work well for long periods of time, because they're not that kind of player.
before seeing this thread , ive always said jelavic is the new andrei kanchelsk , just because of the fact we got andrei and jelavic both in the january window , and both did/done wonders in half the season , also didnt andrei crack 2 past the RS at anfield when he first came ?
Jelavic looks boss, the only question for me is whether he will keep up the prolific form or whether he'll fall back to being a 1 in 3 or 1 in 4 striker. Even if his ratio does go down then 1 goal every 4 games would still be a good buy at £5m.
4-5-1 was and, in my opinion, is still our best formation with the current players we have. Absolutely spot on about Yakubu and Saha being that type of player, were as Bent and I'd say Johnson were. Not getting the best out of his strikers in that system is fair enough for criticism though as players, they were never ruined.
Jelavic could do with a player up there and I hope it'll be Dempsey though at the moment I hope we stick to 4-5-1 and it's no wonder he's doing better than the rest of them did, simply because he's 10x the all round striker than any of the previous mentioned.
no what happend with torres was the same as what happened to samson , out of samson and delilah , samson had his hair cut and he lost his power and everythin , same happened with torres !! , when torres cut his hair he went ****e
Seamus Colemole
Previously deathbyropeandglass
Sorry but no.
Saha and Yakubu at their best were both better all round strikers than Jelavic has been so far.
He's done well so far yes both in giving us the kind of strikers movement we'd been missing, and by showing a great strikers instinct in the box.
But when fit and playing well Yak and Saha were just as good, and in Yaks case probably better all round players.
Jelavic needs to keep it up next season to be as good as Yak was.
Will be interesting to see how we do when Jelavic goes through a poor spell and what he brings to the team then.
He really does score when he wants.
Matt Damon
Player Valuation: £60m
True this.
Not bad for a player who supposedly plays under a manager who "ruins strikers"...
*facepalms*
Saha was a fantastic footballer when he could be arsed but while he was here his all round game wasn't as good as people thought, certainly hasn't been a "goalscorer" since he moved here.
Yakubu was probably the best striker we've had since, well for a long time though all round? not to sure to be honest, the lad was a finisher and strong but that was about it.
Still early days but Jelavic looks the real deal, absolutely everything in his locker. Haven't been this excited about a Everton centre forward for years. Though, as you pointed out, it will be very interesting to see how he gets on in a poor patch which is exactly why we need another striker up front... Do exactly what Newcastle did when they brought Cisse in, despite already having Demba Ba.
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