New Everton Stadium - Hill Dickinson Stadium

davek said:
He's not a decision maker. He won't have final say on this matter. In fact, it'll be what other parties outside the club determine capacity can be.
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Whoever is working on the stadium work to a brief. That brief will have been outlined by a group at Everton including Elstone. Through the process suggestions will be made by external parties as part of design, and as Elstone has chaired many of the meetings, he is regarded as a major player for the stadium. Probably has a bigger part in this than many at Everton.

The capacity will be a trade off against the top number we can target and the number that can be created.

If the site itself genuinely restricts us to 55k or whatever, then expansion can't be built in.
 
banno said:
He may not have the final say but his influence on the matter will be massive. Afterall he is the ceo and will be pulling strings.
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1/ he's on his way out
2/ he's told what the possibilities are for capacity from the council and from architects and from the club board in terms of how much debt the club can get into on this.

He really is just a man who takes orders and distributes info between the real decision makers.
 
Jacko93 said:
Whoever is working on the stadium work to a brief. That brief will have been outlined by a group at Everton including Elstone. Through the process suggestions will be made by external parties as part of design, and as Elstone has chaired many of the meetings, he is regarded as a major player for the stadium. Probably has a bigger part in this than many at Everton.

The capacity will be a trade off against the top number we can target and the number that can be created.

If the site itself genuinely restricts us to 55k or whatever, then expansion can't be built in.
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So is @Foot Long Hot Dog correct to state that it's Elstones limited ambitions that will be responsible for any lowish capacity, because that's what the debate is here.
 
Foot Long Hot Dog said:
Point out where I said that, as I patently didn’t, his influence matters despite your clueless utterances.
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You said he puts a brake on capacity ambitions, which is utter nonsense. He will be given the parameters by others to determine what mix of coporate/ordinary seats will make up the capacity he'll be told the stadium can be.
 
davek said:
1/ he's on his way out
2/ he's told what the possibilities are for capacity from the council and from architects and from the club board in terms of how much debt the club can get into on this.

He really is just a man who takes orders and distributes info between the real decision makers.
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I disagree. Whilst Elstone is still with us he has a big say. If the council and Architects say we have a 65k limit due to allowable land space then that will be a marker. Capacity depending on our funds will be decided by the board including Elstone and this will be relayed to the Architect. The Architect will be waiting for instructions on the capacity and don't think he will have a say in it. The capacity decision will be down to the board and Elstone will have a massive say in it if he is still here at the time of the decision. Elstone will put his argument to the board and that is were his massive influence will come in.
 
banno said:
I disagree. Whilst Elstone is still with us he has a big say. If the council and Architects say we have a 65k limit due to allowable land space then that will be a marker. Capacity depending on our funds will be decided by the board including Elstone and this will be relayed to the Architect. The Architect will be waiting for instructions on the capacity and don't think he will have a say in it. The capacity decision will be down to the board and Elstone will have a massive say in it if he is still here at the time of the decision. Elstone will put his argument to the board and that is were his massive influence will come in.
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Again, I was responding to @Foot Long Hot Dog and his view that this is all down to Elstones lack of ambition. He's part of the decision making process? Yeah, no problem with that. I just don't agree with making him the fall guy on something he's certainly got no control over.
 
roydo said:
He probably runs along ok in the week, and the summer, but the football crowd gives him his cash flow boost every week or so.
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Everton leaving Walton clearly has it's downsides but the club does have to move on. Bearing in mind those same businesses would have had those problems if we had gone to Kirkby, WHP, Stonecross. It is a regrettable circumstance for Walton but it will not be for a few years yet.
 

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