New Everton Owners: The Friedkin Group

[MikeH72]

So to be correct you think Southgate is better than Moyes? On what metric have you come to that conclusion ?

Mate…

 

[Marcus Kendall]

Mate…

Have I misunderstood?

 

[MikeH72]

Have I misunderstood?

Yes mate, it’s a running gag based on Dave wanting Southgate to replace Moyes and save us from relegation last year.

 

[Marcus Kendall]

Yes mate, it’s a running gag based on Dave wanting Southgate to replace Moyes and save us from relegation last year.

Sorry mate I didn't realise

 

[BlueStevie35]

So to be correct you think Southgate is better than Moyes? On what metric have you come to that conclusion ?

Dave wanted Southgate, Mike doesn’t

 

[Marcus Kendall]

Dave wanted Southgate, Mike doesn’t

Cheers I've got the memo now. Can't understand why anybody would want Southgate but hey ho it's a games of opinions

 

[Seathestars]

Sorry mate I didn't realise

To be fair to you mate he has more personalities than BMD when it's full so it's hard to keep up

 

[Rob17896]

He wouldn't go from being manager of Arsenal to managing us.

Dont want him anyway, the helmet headed walloper.

I can contradict myself as well

 

[BackRow PE6]

He's chosen to batter ST holders when it doesn't raise that much extra revenue.

That's because he's been unable to monetise the stadium in terms of non-sports events. The fans have been made to pay for that.

He recently got in a "business president" from British Gas. Guess what he was good at?

The commercial contracts Kinnear has done have been like shooting fish in a barrel because we have a high profile new stadium to sell to "partners".

His relationship with Moyes has been turned on its head to a point where Moyes has decided to sideline nearly all the expensive signings from last season and Kinnear presents all this as "typically only one in three new signings will be a success"...just to cover his own arse that he's been sidelined as the spare arse parts he and his "exceptional operators" are.

In short: KInnear has been a complete failure here.

Any chance you can share your experience striking commercial deals to give your commentary more credibility?

 

[BackRow PE6]

Iraola is 10x the manager David Moyes is.

Look at the players who have joined or been at Bournemouth under him.

Then look at how massively so many have improved across the entire 11.

Its just ridiculous how well hes done there.

Not too dissimilar to Moyes Mk1. Certainly not 10 times better if at all.

 

[Drico]

Yes but not for the purpose of the topic which was on the ownership.

Can only measure the ownership on the amount available to spend + the amount they actually spend this summer.

Wot?

You can measure the ownership on the amount available, the amount they spend, and how it is spent - because the people who spend it are their appointments.

Accountability, please.

 

[hallamblue]

Clubs with an aligned philosophy do well, examples Brighton, Brentford, Bournemouth, Aston Villa. Clubs who spend a fortune are generally immune from relegation trouble no matter how badly managed they are examples Manchester United and Chelsea. Clubs who spend below top dollar on players and don't have an aligned philosophy tend struggle examples Everton, Spurs, Notts Forest. Clubs who have previously overstretched themselves tend to struggle big time examples Everton until this season, Wolves, Leicester. We need to learn from this and become a club with an aligned philosophy as opposed to the mixed messages we have currently where we buy young players and don't play them. We either go down the Aston Villa route of buying a squad full of established players or we get rid of Moyes and get some more young players with pace in to supplement O'Brien, Branthwaite, Aznou,Armstrong, Rohl, Dibling, Alcaraz and Barry.

 

[Saint Domingo]

I take your manager views with a pinch of salt based on recent history tbh.

Iraola is a flavour of the month mercenary no mark that hasn’t won a pot. He isn’t coming here and winning us 3 trophies in the next 2 years.

Glasner would stand more of a chance but if you think anyone is coming in and doing what you are saying, more fool you to be honest. We have just extended keanes contract again, we aren’t winning anything soon.

it’s also the weigh up of building for sustained success rather than 2 good years and back to obscurity for a decade. There’s a bigger picture.

So a manager can do it at Crystal Palace but it’s impossible at Everton so why even try? Think I’ll take that with a massive pinch of salt.

 

[PITA]

I normally try not to have a moan in the main forum (which is one reason I rarely visit), but can we all agree that expenses and losses can be in red numbers or (in brackets) but should never be (in both red color and brackets) ?

(-Agreed)

 

[PITA]

But they never turn up Davek and you don’t strike me as a traveller

That's not an issue because @davek never turns up either. I suspect that he is expecting them to turn up at his mum's box room.