New Everton Owners: The Friedkin Group
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On the subject of American owners
Liverpool fans kicking off .
What I'm not getting is they clearly had ambitions to bring in experienced people behind the scenes and have brought people in from other Premier League clubs, even from City and United.
Why aren't they going out and getting the scouts and analysts from the likes of Brighton and Bournemouth?
We quadruple managers' salaries when they join us, I'm sure we can improve on their salaries to convince them to jump ship too.
Why aren't they going out and getting the scouts and analysts from the likes of Brighton and Bournemouth?
We quadruple managers' salaries when they join us, I'm sure we can improve on their salaries to convince them to jump ship too.
FSG getting it in the neck from all sides tho I think the Red Sox fans are a good bit more peed off than the kopites after the amount liverpool recently spent. The sox binned their manager yesterday.
hallamblue
Player Valuation: £50m
You can't replicate Brighton or Brentford because it comes from the top. Both owners of the club own and run analytics firms. At Bournemouth you might be able to,but you'd need to employ their entire team and history tells us it's very difficult to do (Steve Walsh anyone). We need to develop our own expertise and also get a new head coach who will buy into the process.
The Friedkin Group to buy data company to help with player recruitment
The Friedkin Group, who also own Serie A side AS Roma, completed a takeover of Everton last December.
www.toffeeweb.com
Makis
Player Valuation: £8m
Yeah, they don't make those signings because they have the best scouts. If that was true big clubs would have snapped them up already.
Pretty sure I read they have / are trimming down actual scouts in favour of data driven models off that company they bought, and then scouting specific targets rather than a broad scouting network. I believe this was touted as how Brighton and Brentford operate.
Will see if I can dig out the article.
He once got a weeks free milk when he signed up to a guaranteed years delivery contract
Does that count ?
hallamblue
Player Valuation: £50m
The data equivalent of employing Steve Walsh. They will produce data, but what are we doing with that data? Currently giving it to Moyes who says "he's not tall enough/old enough/ has no premier league experience/doesn't track back etc and signs John McGinn.The Friedkin Group to buy data company to help with player recruitment
The Friedkin Group, who also own Serie A side AS Roma, completed a takeover of Everton last December.
NathDogg
Player Valuation: £60m
Half a billion quid spent on new players in the summer, they were loving their yank overlords then weren’t they?
If they had performed better in the league this season and maybe got to or won a cup final, this protest doesn’t happen.
Looks like no one bothered to follow the “not a pound in the ground” instructions either - loads of vids of RS having murder with each other inside klanfield.
They are the most deluded, ridiculous “customers” in world football.
Drico
Player Valuation: £70m
The misuse of Steve Walsh has got to be the second biggest blunder of the ill-fated Moshiri era - only after keeping Bill Kenwright on the board. Assuming that was forced, i.e., a condition of the sale, then it was arguably the biggest blunder. Walsh was a renowned scout - and we made him Director of Football. Sigh.
Looking at his Wikipedia entry just now makes me cry:
In addition to the expensive players that Everton signed, Walsh also recommended Hull duo Andy Robertson and Harry Maguire for a combined £20 million and teenage Norwegian striker Erling Haaland for €4 million; Everton rejected the trio, whose values soared years later.
Nice to see Steve updating his own Wikipedia there.
hallamblue
Player Valuation: £50m
Exactly my thoughts, he was a disaster
Makis
Player Valuation: £8m
Walsh gets lots of [Poor language removed] while it was obvious he wasn't running things (Kenwright was). For instance do you really believe it was his idea to sign three #10s in one window? Lookman and Gueye are players I'm pretty sure he picked, Bolasie maybe. And we were really unlucky with Bolasie, he had like five assists in a few months, mostly for Lukaku before getting injured and never really getting over it. Keane, no idea who signed him ultimately and while he has been crap for long periods he will have been at the club for 10 years when he leaves which is not very common these days. He has played over 260 matches and scored 19 goals. Pickford likewise, no idea who signed him but Walsh was DoF at the time and he's one of the best signings in our entire PL history.
Of the poor signings Sigurdsson was so obviously a Moshiri vanity project. He overpaid by about double what Sigurdsson's worth was just to make a point.
Williams, Schneiderlin and Klaassen were total wastes of space, and I would bet the last one was on Walsh for sure, the other two probably. Vlasic was the #10 he obviously signed (Kenwright brought back Rooney) and IMO was a decent gamble for 10 million. Onyekuru was a joke of a signing and Sandro was really odd if it really was Walsh who signed him (scouts usually do more than just see how many goals someone scored last season). Walcott and Tosun were signed by Allardyce.
Walsh was not good by any stretch but his downfall was summer 2017. Two of the players signed then are still at the club while we made huge losses on Sigurdsson and Klaassen. Vlasic, Onyekuru and Sandro cost a combined 20 million and you'd hope that outlay had some sort of impact. Overall he made some good signings, some so-so and some terrible but it's really hard to distinguish how much the circus at the club affected. Same as with
Brands who famously complained he was not really in control. Not exactly the first time in Premier League this has happened, or is happening that owner meddles in things he should not. Worse still, we had previous owner doing the same.
It's funny how in one message we should sign Brighton's and Bournemouth's scouts but in the next we shouldn't do what they do. The point of this model is to find the correct types of players. There are at least a hundred right-backs who could do a job in the PL. How do you sort through all of them? Send scouts to watch each and every one of them 20 times? And this is just one position. And of course what Brighton does is finding the players that are not necessary on bigger clubs' radar yet. They don't do that by having a scout in every match played in South America.
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