New DOF

[Groucho]

Please Everton, for once can you get something right?

Can we get a DoF and Manager who gel and have a good dynamic together?

I’ve never been convinced by the dof model but if we’re to do it we should at least do it properly.

 

[Tommy Chong]

I’ve never been convinced by the dof model but if we’re to do it we should at least do it properly.

Same here.

If we stuff this up with bad appointments, it'll set us back another 5 years.

 

[allen]

I’ve never been convinced by the dof model but if we’re to do it we should at least do it properly.

We’re such a clown car of an outfit, we need a DoF. Not every club does, but one that burns through managers, and makes insane choices about the next one like we do, needs a steadying hand.

But having a DoF and that DoF being able to do their job are nowhere near the same thing.

 

[Eggs]

This....If Duncan looks he's doing ok, surely he should be left in charge until the end of the season. In that time, we should identify and appoint the right man as DOF, he should then take a look and see if he wants to keep Duncan as head coach and if he doesn't he should pick the head coach he wants.

I know this is a stretch, believing that the Iranian lunatic can allow a DOF to do his job without interference, but, it really is the only hope of a long term solution for us. We really are such a mess.

….my concern with Ferguson getting the job until the end of the season is we will see a bounce but then fall back in the mire.

i haven’t seen the managers he’s served particularly seeking his counsel. From the training clips, he only seems to take the goalscoring sessions at the end which are full of joviality. Indeed, the latest clips now show him taking sessions when he perhaps should be standing back & let the coaches do that.

Being Braveheart will get found out. Ferguson is too well known to the players & I wouldn’t be sure there’s a lot of respect from a footballing perspective.

 

[Nymzee]

Same here.

If we stuff this up with bad appointments, it'll set us back another 5 years.

Equally if you hire the wrong manager and give them autonomy that can also set you back many years since they themselves don’t last long.

 

[bluestevon]

I’ve never been convinced by the dof model but if we’re to do it we should at least do it properly.

Because we've never done the DoF remotely correctly.

 

[bluestevon]

Equally if you hire the wrong manager and give them autonomy that can also set you back many years since they themselves don’t last long.

Worse, the mess we are in is not because of the DoF model, we've never done that really as in hiring one who knows what he's doing in the role and giving them full control.

 

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

I'm not convinced we need a DOF if we have a competent experienced manager in the role

However, if Dunc, Rooney or Lampard are the front runners for the managers gig then I think having a DOF to help them is a wise idea for the time being

Brighton are a well run club, so getting Ashworth in would seem to be a good appointment. As others have said though, it's not just giving him the job he has to also be allowed to do the job

 

[roy vernon]

….my concern with Ferguson getting the job until the end of the season is we will see a bounce but then fall back in the mire.

i haven’t seen the managers he’s served particularly seeking his counsel. From the training clips, he only seems to take the goalscoring sessions at the end which are full of joviality. Indeed, the latest clips now show him taking sessions when he perhaps should be standing back & let the coaches do that.

Being Braveheart will get found out. Ferguson is too well known to the players & I wouldn’t be sure there’s a lot of respect from a footballing perspective.

I'm sure you're right, but, the thing is, this season is already an unmitigated disaster, if Duncan can get us 3 quick wins with the new manager bounce, that should shore us up against getting more involved in the relegation battle. Leaving him in charge while we get the right DOF in charge means that when he comes in, he does not have to start his tenure with an expensive sacking of a newly appointed manager.

Of course that's not the Everton way, in this era of Iranian lunacy, so, expect the most unsuitable manager possible to be appointed in the coming weeks.

 

[zukai12_]

Just because we messed up the DoF model doesn't mean its bad

Pretty much every top team, and upwardly mobile team (Brighton, Brentford etc) uses a DoF

Pretty much the only major team without one is Man U at look at the mess they're in

 

[bluestevon]

I'm not convinced we need a DOF if we have a competent experienced manager in the role

However, if Dunc, Rooney or Lampard are the front runners for the managers gig then I think having a DOF to help them is a wise idea for the time being

Brighton are a well run club, so getting Ashworth in would seem to be a good appointment. As others have said though, it's not just giving him the job he has to also be allowed to do the job

When you look at a well run club mate, it normally has two very stable things, a owner who hires the right people and let's them do their job without overdue interference, and a DoF or Technical Director who has full control of football matters for the club.

You never here about cities owners overly interfering in the club, even Chelsea, by and large let their technical director have control, a few instances they didn't such as Mourinho returning etc actually worked out badly

Couldn't even tell you who the owners of Brighton are I fact and that's a good thing imo. Means they aren't like moshiri

 

[twoblue]

….my concern with Ferguson getting the job until the end of the season is we will see a bounce but then fall back in the mire.

i haven’t seen the managers he’s served particularly seeking his counsel. From the training clips, he only seems to take the goalscoring sessions at the end which are full of joviality. Indeed, the latest clips now show him taking sessions when he perhaps should be standing back & let the coaches do that.

Being Braveheart will get found out. Ferguson is too well known to the players & I wouldn’t be sure there’s a lot of respect from a footballing perspective.

Goal scoring? Jeez. Barely hit double figures

 

[Eggs]

Just because we messed up the DoF model doesn't mean its bad

Pretty much every top team, and upwardly mobile team (Brighton, Brentford etc) uses a DoF

Pretty much the only major team without one is Man U at look at the mess they're in

….absolutely, and worth noting most progressive young managers will be used to working with a DoF. The game is much more global these days, Managers would find it difficult to know the market whilst concentrating on on-field matters.

 

[bluestevon]

Just because we messed up the DoF model doesn't mean its bad

Pretty much every top team, and upwardly mobile team (Brighton, Brentford etc) uses a DoF

Pretty much the only major team without one is Man U at look at the mess they're in

Funnily enough two very successful.teams of my lifetime, united and arsenal with Wenger and Ferguson didn't have a DoF but both had Chairman in control who effectively did that role and where football men in Edwards and Dein. So kinda did a dual chairman and DoF role

Imagine blue bill or Baxendale or Moshiri trying to do that.....

 

[twoblue]

….my concern with Ferguson getting the job until the end of the season is we will see a bounce but then fall back in the mire.

i haven’t seen the managers he’s served particularly seeking his counsel. From the training clips, he only seems to take the goalscoring sessions at the end which are full of joviality. Indeed, the latest clips now show him taking sessions when he perhaps should be standing back & let the coaches do that.

Being Braveheart will get found out. Ferguson is too well known to the players & I wouldn’t be sure there’s a lot of respect from a footballing perspective.

If he does well for a bit then that’s better the we are doing.