Moyes decisions today.

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Did hitzlspeger play CM and Neville RB against any of the top 6.

No substance in your point then

Give your head a wobble. Neville played against pretty much all the top sides last season, which included beating Chelsea, Spurs and City at home and drawing with United 4-4 at Old Trafford.

Or are you seriously trying to say Barkley would have been a much better option in midfield than an experienced international midfielder ?
 
Give your head a wobble. Neville played against pretty much all the top sides last season, which included beating Chelsea, Spurs and City at home and drawing with United 4-4 at Old Trafford.

Or are you seriously trying to say Barkley would have been a much better option in midfield than an experienced international midfielder ?

No mate, what Im saying is a top side would have steam rolled that starting 11 yesterday. Midfield was everywhere.

You said no they wouldnt because we're second in the top 6 vs league....

Yeh because Hitzlsperger played CM in. All the vs top 6 games. Neville at "right back" was terrible.

We win at West Ham with Jags right back, but moyes brings neville back there and even worse brings Hitz in. When Naismith should have started and Osman and Gibbo in the middle. Poor team selection. Terrible first half
 
No mate, what Im saying is a top side would have steam rolled that starting 11 yesterday. Midfield was everywhere.

You said no they wouldnt because we're second in the top 6 vs league....

Yeh because Hitzlsperger played CM in. All the vs top 6 games. Neville at "right back" was terrible.

We win at West Ham with Jags right back, but moyes brings neville back there and even worse brings Hitz in. When Naismith should have started and Osman and Gibbo in the middle. Poor team selection. Terrible first half

We play differently against sides like Arsenal and Chelsea, and our home record against such teams reflects that.
 
Lads, Wigan fans were dressed as banana's so really, in the grand scheme of things, we have nothing to moan about
 
No mate, what Im saying is a top side would have steam rolled that starting 11 yesterday. Midfield was everywhere.

You said no they wouldnt because we're second in the top 6 vs league....

Yeh because Hitzlsperger played CM in. All the vs top 6 games. Neville at "right back" was terrible.

We win at West Ham with Jags right back, but moyes brings neville back there and even worse brings Hitz in. When Naismith should have started and Osman and Gibbo in the middle. Poor team selection. Terrible first half

Have you not noticed that the team, tactics and formation change for every opponent?

I doubt that that 11 in that formation would have played against one of your 'top' sides. However, that side played yesterday and won. Hitzlsperger did well and is gradually getting match fit, Neville at right back is a better option than moving Jagielka out of the middle, Osman was under instruction to cut in - in the same way as Pienaar was from the left flank.

I've read through 11 pages of this and you seem to have missed every other poster's point of view; so clouded in your ire as you appear to be. As good as Barkley may turn out to be; it is EVIDENT that Moyes does not think he is ready just yet. He certainly is not a viable option to depend on as a holding midfielder for the final throes of a game when we're under the cosh, that's my opinion and I'm just a fan.
 
Have you not noticed that the team, tactics and formation change for every opponent?

I doubt that that 11 in that formation would have played against one of your 'top' sides. However, that side played yesterday and won. Hitzlsperger did well and is gradually getting match fit, Neville at right back is a better option than moving Jagielka out of the middle, Osman was under instruction to cut in - in the same way as Pienaar was from the left flank.

I've read through 11 pages of this and you seem to have missed every other poster's point of view; so clouded in your ire as you appear to be. As good as Barkley may turn out to be; it is EVIDENT that Moyes does not think he is ready just yet. He certainly is not a viable option to depend on as a holding midfielder for the final throes of a game when we're under the cosh, that's my opinion and I'm just a fan.

So instead of going after a poor Wigan side we sit back bring on Heitinga and hope we pinch another one. Why not grab the game by the bollocks and go for it with an attack minded player in Barkley?

We drop points against Norwich late sitting back, same with Fulham away. Why not keep going for the 90 mins like Utd do week in week out. Too much caution isnt always the best option.

If mason had given Wigan that penalty it would have been 1-1 no doubt and a total change in perspective. At 1-0 we should be looking to kill the game at home not sit back. Hitzlsperger ahead of barkley with a Gibson already as a sitter is just a joke IMO.

And the team, tactics and formation wouldnt have changed for every opponent if injuries and susprnsions never kicked in. Thr first 11 pickd itself and neither Barkley or Hitz are in it - no problem with that.

Problems when we havent got players available and Barkley who seems to be the best footballer doesnt even get a sniff.
 
TBH Barkleys obviously not that good if Moyes dosent rate him

He can pick a player 9 times out of ten and it seems the kid just does not cut the mustard
 
TBH Barkleys obviously not that good if Moyes dosent rate him

He can pick a player 9 times out of ten and it seems the kid just does not cut the mustard

Thats just rubbish. Hes obviously very talented but Moyes doesnt want to risk him in this importsnt season.
 
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