Moyes: a personal watershed is upon him

[BostonBluenose]

That Adam rumor was/is ****.

If Moyesy can get the Mirallas signing done, we'll have one of our strongest squads in a while and it'll be up to Moyes to show us something new. I've not lost faith in Moyes just yet.

 

[davek]

Speculation and bias. Come on mate, at least wait untill the windows closed to have a pop.

The trend is there for all to see, regardless of what happens in the next week or so.

...and his attacks on fans have been duly noted. If he fails to deliver his now customary 7th/8th place finish, just watch how quickly he loses support. There's a lot of people disgruntled with this feller.

 

[Blackwatch1878]

Moyes is shot to ****. He's a spent force.

He accepted the agenda in 2009 of managed decline and is just happy to rearrange the deckchairs on the Titanic as long as he's getting a pat on the head from the media and is banging £3.5M (soon to rise to £4M) into his bank account every year.

No respect for him now whatsover. And that's from someone who backed him all the way up until a couple of years back. He's as repulsive to me now as that reptile Smith who he suceeded...and that's something I never thought I'd say.

U cant tell me your not Inspired

http://www.evertonfc.com/news/archive/2012/08/17/moyes-wants-at-least-two-new-faces

 

[bluebottle]

The trend is there for all to see, regardless of what happens in the next week or so.

...and his attacks on fans have been duly noted. If he fails to deliver his now customary 7th/8th place finish, just watch how quickly he loses support. There's a lot of people disgruntled with this feller.

So you're saying he is judged by our fan base on his (relative) successes? I'd say that's fair. I'd imagine support for him is still strong, especially if he manoeuvres well in this window. If he was in complete cahoots with the board we wouldn't be signing anyone.

 

[davek]

U cant tell me your not Inspired

http://www.evertonfc.com/news/archive/2012/08/17/moyes-wants-at-least-two-new-faces

I cant bear to watch or listen to that Yes Man, but I dont understand the text of it here:

Moyes said: “We'd already sold Joseph Yobo and Tim Cahill so it wasn't a necessity (to sell Jack) this year...."

then says...

"We had to raise the money so hopefully I'll try to add to the squad before the season starts."


The feller's all over the place. It's what happens when people lie...they tend to lose the thread of the story they try to project.I wouldn't trust him at all. He used to be the one person people looked to in order to tell us what the reality of things are down there at the club. What a mistake that was. Just another snake oil salesman like the rest of them.

 

[davek]

So you're saying he is judged by our fan base on his (relative) successes? I'd say that's fair. I'd imagine support for him is still strong, especially if he manoeuvres well in this window. If he was in complete cahoots with the board we wouldn't be signing anyone.

I'd say it's overwhelmingly provisional and fragile. If we go bottom half of the table in any season you're hard pressed to find a collection of supporters who'll stand behind him.

I think people have had enough. Had enough of the falure to secure success; had enough of his scowling; had enough of his negative formations and tactics; had enough of his cosy realtionship with owners who are killing the club.

 

[Goat]

Dave mate, can you stop picking on Moyes please.

 

[BostonBluenose]

It's what happens when people lie...they tend to lose the thread of the story they try to project.

Think your twisting a few things are there to assuming Moyes is out there lying to us!

 

[bluebottle]

Dave mate, can you stop picking on Moyes please.

He can't help it, I don't think. Moyes is actually playing this window pretty well and at his own leisure but Davek can't be doing with all this levity.

 

[Blackwatch1878]

Lets just hope he can pull of these two transfer deals ..... Watch this Space





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[bluebottle]

I'd say it's overwhelmingly provisional and fragile. If we go bottom half of the table in any season you're hard pressed to find a collection of supporters who'll stand behind him.

I think people have had enough. Had enough of the falure to secure success; had enough of his scowling; had enough of his negative formations and tactics; had enough of his cosy realtionship with owners who are killing the club.

I can't honestly speak for our entire fan base tbh, I'd imagine there are divisions due to opinion of the role Moyes plays in it all, yes. I'm yet to see anyone call for Moyes out or really protest against him directly.

 

[Tubey]

The problem is, regardless of transfer activity (which Moyes has always been very good with), he's still tactically clueless. That's what stops him being a world class manager.

 

[Pomp]

The problem is, regardless of transfer activity (which Moyes has always been very good with), he's still tactically clueless. That's what stops him being a world class manager.

I remember the season we finished with our lowest ever top-flight points tally, Moyes was very angry. He said something (I've tried to find the quote but it's years ago and disappeared from the net) basically like 'I used to think you could improve players, but now I think you can't improve them and you need the best players to succeed and need money to buy the better players'. He was having a big go at the underperforming squad, and I think he then sold Rooney.

If anyone can find the quote that would be great, it was after a defeat later on in the season. But gonna be impossible, but it was really as simple as that what he said.

I don't know how that fits in with the tactically clueless comment, but I suppose it points that the better players you have, the more your tactical flaws can be covered up.

I really hope we can play well and not lose this Monday. A good start literally is what we require and then some signings to improve the motivation and belief in this squad.

 

[MACCA75]

Would it be naive to suggest that Moyes own contract could be putting a spanner in the works of the Mirallas deal? It must be hard to sell an idea about where the club is heading to a player when the manager himself wont even sign up.

 

[Ihaters]

He has a massive majority of fans support and rightly so, someone please put up an opinion poll somewhere as he would storm it, i'd put my house on it... even on this site with some fans apparently thinking that Moyes prevents us from playing football, tries to ensure we don't win the league, is the cause of the board staying and why we are not highly funded, goes out of his way not to rake in the silverware and is the reason all is not sweet and happy.
I would go so far as to say that the opinions of most of this thread are almost exclusively held by those of an internet forum background.. The sheer volume of cliches are mind numbing.
Nearly all fans I talk to think he's boss.. with good reason, one of Davek's constantly regurgitated moans for example is about how many players have been sold and not replaced, yet despite this set back to Moyes we finished in a position higher than the year before..
Congratulations to the shadowy mystery man behind the scenes that made that improvement happen if it wasn't Moyes.
I am sure it wil be credited by those here that can't tollerate the ginger genius to Dalglish for being ****e and making them worse than us rather than us being better despite the obvious truth.
Re-live the second half of the last season and how many goals we were scoring, think about who has gone from that team and who has arrived and you may see actually with or without these kids that may or may not be any good we have a fkin good team, and we also have the potential to do really well this season..... because of our manager.
It is a watershed moment though as we could well break the euro barrier again and start bringing in some money if these kids are any good.