Moyes: a personal watershed is upon him

[Ihaters]

Would it be naive to suggest that Moyes own contract could be putting a spanner in the works of the Mirallas deal? It must be hard to sell an idea about where the club is heading to a player when the manager himself wont even sign up.

No it wouldn't be neive at all.. it would be clutching at straws and talking ****e though.

 

[davek]

He has a massive majority of fans support and rightly so, someone please put up an opinion poll somewhere as he would storm it, i'd put my house on it... even on this site with some fans apparently thinking that Moyes prevents us from playing football, tries to ensure we don't win the league, is the cause of the board staying and why we are not highly funded, goes out of his way not to rake in the silverware and is the reason all is not sweet and happy.
I would go so far as to say that the opinions of most of this thread are almost exclusively held by those of an internet forum background.. The sheer volume of cliches are mind numbing.
Nearly all fans I talk to think he's boss.. with good reason, one of Davek's constantly regurgitated moans for example is about how many players have been sold and not replaced, yet despite this set back to Moyes we finished in a position higher than the year before..
Congratulations to the shadowy mystery man behind the scenes that made that improvement happen if it wasn't Moyes.
I am sure it wil be credited by those here that can't tollerate the ginger genius to Dalglish for being ****e and making them worse than us rather than us being better despite the obvious truth.
Re-live the second half of the last season and how many goals we were scoring, think about who has gone from that team and who has arrived and you may see actually with or without these kids that may or may not be any good we have a fkin good team, and we also have the potential to do really well this season..... because of our manager.
It is a watershed moment though as we could well break the euro barrier again and start bringing in some money if these kids are any good.

So wrong in so many ways I cant even summon the will to address it.

 

[SweetJesus849]

My biggest issue with Moyes is why we can beat sides like Man City, Chelsea, etc, the top sides, but always struggle to beat the likes of QPR. Oh and why we've won like 3 derbies in 10 years.

 

[Ihaters]

My biggest issue with Moyes is why we can beat sides like Man City, Chelsea, etc, the top sides, but always struggle to beat the likes of QPR. Oh and why we've won like 3 derbies in 10 years.

Its really annoying, its also mainly at the start of the season though, end of season we have a very good chance against anyone usually. Lower league cup exits are the ones that annoy me the most.

 

[Summerskin]

My biggest issue with Moyes is why we can beat sides like Man City, Chelsea, etc, the top sides, but always struggle to beat the likes of QPR..

Because we thrive on being underdogs, he's got the "plucky little Everton frustrates top 4 club" thing down to a tee.

When we're actually expected to win a game (i.e. against "lesser" opposition at Goodison) we sh*t one, the past few seasons have annoyingly proven this...God knows how many piece of sh*t teams with less history than my 4 year old niece have taken points off us at home.

We were also expected to win the Semi Final against Liverpool, even the general media had us down as the ones to beat...needless to say, what happened there?

 

[SweetJesus849]

Because we thrive on being underdogs, he's got the "plucky little Everton frustrates top 4 club" thing down to a tee.

When we're actually expected to win a game (i.e. against "lesser" opposition at Goodison) we sh*t one, the past few seasons have annoyingly proven this...God knows how many piece of sh*t teams with less history than my 4 year old niece have taken points off us at home.

We were also expected to win the Semi Final against Liverpool, even the general media had us down as the ones to beat...needless to say, what happened there?

See when we go into games against the likes of Chelsea or that, do you consider us to be the underdogs where we shouldn't really be winning? I don't personally, because I know we can do it. I think the only time I do dread a game is derby days because a collective group of players and management get caught with their pants around their ankles and look starstruck every single time we play them.

It's when we're classed as favourites that does me. QPR, Blackburn, Norwich maybe, then we just don't play like we're interested at all, unless we concede a goal and it's clear we need to pull our fingers out.

I think he just lacks the killer instinct, which I think was best displayed in the semi final that you mentioned.

 

[Duncan Disordely]

I think once the transfer window closes, if we haven't lost any of the big players, and Moyes has made the signings he wants he'll very quickly sign a new contract. Steven Naismith admitted that it was a big pull wanting to play for Moyes, would he have joined if he thought he'd be gone next year?

 

[davek]

I think once the transfer window closes, if we haven't lost any of the big players, and Moyes has made the signings he wants he'll very quickly sign a new contract. Steven Naismith admitted that it was a big pull wanting to play for Moyes, would he have joined if he thought he'd be gone next year?

He'd have gone anywhere for a few quid.

 

[Duncan Disordely]

He'd have gone anywhere for a few quid.

I hope your distaste in the fully legal way his move was conducted doesn't stop you from cheering him on for Everton this season and celebrating any goals and assists

 

[Seamus Colemole]

Because we thrive on being underdogs, he's got the "plucky little Everton frustrates top 4 club" thing down to a tee.

When we're actually expected to win a game (i.e. against "lesser" opposition at Goodison) we sh*t one, the past few seasons have annoyingly proven this...God knows how many piece of sh*t teams with less history than my 4 year old niece have taken points off us at home.

We were also expected to win the Semi Final against Liverpool, even the general media had us down as the ones to beat...needless to say, what happened there?

And what where certain people on here saying would happen in our next game after that disgrace against the rs? The exact thing that happened thats what : we'd go away to one of the best teams in the world and play an absolute blinder when the pressure was OFF.

I think, that if Moyes was sat here with me now and i asked him he would honestly and genuinly say that he likes his teams to play decent attacking entertaining football, and that he tries to sign players who can do that. Only problem is that its all very well thinking and saying that in someones living room, but when it comes down to it and he picks the team and chooses the tactics his deepdown psycholgical fear of losing comes out and his natural cautiousness and negativity shine through until he has nothing to lose.

 

[bflefc]

And what where certain people on here saying would happen in our next game after that disgrace against the rs? The exact thing that happened thats what : we'd go away to one of the best teams in the world and play an absolute blinder when the pressure was OFF.

I think, that if Moyes was sat here with me now and i asked him he would honestly and genuinly say that he likes his teams to play decent attacking entertaining football, and that he tries to sign players who can do that. Only problem is that its all very well thinking and saying that in someones living room, but when it comes down to it and he picks the team and chooses the tactics his deepdown psycholgical fear of losing comes out and his natural cautiousness and negativity shine through until he has nothing to lose.

That, Sir, is as close as you can paint a picture of a nail being hit on the head using just words. BANG ON

 

[jsweeney17]

every year it seems there are certain fixtures that we just don't turn up for, Man U not being one of them thankfully. But the other ones, lesser teams at Goodison, the derbies, league cup games, it seems the players are not motivated. Maybe the answer lies not in the ability of the managerial team to gee them up, maybe its the pay structure. Perhaps we should incent players with a greater part of their pay being performance(and I mean wins) related. that way players would look forward to QPR's visit as easier money in the bank. I dont pretend to know the way players get paid currently but it does seem that we have an underlying problem and motivational speakers are not always the answer.

 

[toffeechris]

iv said it before and il say it again moynes is a miracle worker in his ten years at our club hope he can continue to work the miracles here for another ten years!!!!

 

[davek]

And what where certain people on here saying would happen in our next game after that disgrace against the rs? The exact thing that happened thats what : we'd go away to one of the best teams in the world and play an absolute blinder when the pressure was OFF.

I think, that if Moyes was sat here with me now and i asked him he would honestly and genuinly say that he likes his teams to play decent attacking entertaining football, and that he tries to sign players who can do that. Only problem is that its all very well thinking and saying that in someones living room, but when it comes down to it and he picks the team and chooses the tactics his deepdown psycholgical fear of losing comes out and his natural cautiousness and negativity shine through until he has nothing to lose.

That is defo his mindset and therefore the hallmark of all his teams.

I've seen two managers at Everton who I'd class as cowards in terms of their approach to the game: Smith, and this feller Moyes.

 

[toffeechris]

That is defo his mindset and therefore the hallmark of all his teams.

I've seen two managers at Everton who I'd class as cowards in terms of their approach to the game: Smith, and this feller Moyes.

go support tranmere mate you do nothing but moan i think if we won the league youd still moan and say we should have won the cup too!!!