Current Affairs Missing woman in Lancashire

[tsubaki]

What is odd is that a specialist team with the latest sonar equipment and police divers can search what is a small and shallow river and the body turns up three weeks later just a mile away from where she went missing…

pete I refer you to @PhilM and their eminently sensible post

 

[Hinchcliffe's Corner]

usually it is down to them being very young, but it does happen on a sadly fairly regular basis

Or have impairments, disabled etc. She seems a healthy fit woman. Anyways didn't mean to speculate as it seems at this stage very unfortunate.

 

[tsubaki]

You really are a cretin aren’t you. Is this all this means to you…..

pete how many times are you going to be lied to?

 

[tsubaki]

Or have impairments, disabled etc. She seems a healthy fit woman. Anyways didn't mean to speculate as it seems at this stage very unfortunate.

As was said above sometimes the shock can be enough - I know its a completely different river, but there are bridges on the Thames (which I won't name for obvious reasons) where if you jump in at some states of the tide you will not even get the chance to surface never mind try to swim. I went to one of those occasions and he emerged a week later four or five miles downstream.

 

[Charlie Sweet]

The lesson from this is that the Police also searched the same area of river and found nothing and nor did the specialist. It’s going to be harrowing for the family if it turns out to be the woman in question, and even more so if it’s found that she died in the water. So please take your smug little dig comments elsewhere…..

Er I was reacting to the smug little dig poncing all over the media!

 

[carlos21]

The lesson from this is that the Police also searched the same area of river and found nothing and nor did the specialist. It’s going to be harrowing for the family if it turns out to be the woman in question, and even more so if it’s found that she died in the water. So please take your smug little dig comments elsewhere…..

It may not be here body yet chill out.

 

[peteblue]

It may not be here body yet chill out.

Indeed Carlos…but there’s still lots to do, is it her, how long has the body been in the water, what was cause of death. It’s tough for the family but the quicker those sort of questions can be answered the better for them. Uncertainty is the worst part….

 

[carlos21]

Indeed Carlos…but there’s still lots to do, is it her, how long has the body been in the water, what was cause of death. It’s tough for the family but the quicker those sort of questions can be answered the better for them. Uncertainty is the worst part….

So that's why I am a bit sad tonight aswell mate so I have told everyone to leave me alone tonight are face getting ban.

 

[carlos21]

Indeed Carlos…but there’s still lots to do, is it her, how long has the body been in the water, what was cause of death. It’s tough for the family but the quicker those sort of questions can be answered the better for them. Uncertainty is the worst part….

You are okay to talk to me.

 

[carlos21]

Indeed Carlos…but there’s still lots to do, is it her, how long has the body been in the water, what was cause of death. It’s tough for the family but the quicker those sort of questions can be answered the better for them. Uncertainty is the worst part….

Go on mate let's chat.

 

[peteblue]

Go on mate let's chat.

In your thread probably best…..

 

[carlos21]

In your thread probably best…..

Alright then mate.

 

[Wizard]

I’m wary of getting involved in the speculation game as that has caused even more grief on top of an already horrible situation. But she was wearing a big coat and suitable clothes for the weather at the time. But not suitable weather for going into a river and none of us have any idea of how proficient she was as a swimmer. And as some have mentioned the shock factor of going into cold water. There are also conflicting reports of how deep the river was.

It’s an incredibly sad situation and if the worst is confirmed then hopefully everyone will leave her family alone and let them mourn.

 

[slipstream86]

Lesson from this is anyone that reaches for.speed dial on GB News at the first sign of a tragedy is probably a wrong un

He was on every news channel going at some point mate. You will have to cast the net far wider than that....otherwise that statement is simply an example of confirmation bias towards your hatred of GB news. I know its the CA forum, but I would suggest your viewing of this case through a lens of political ideology is misplaced.

Fully agree with the sentiment in this thread his publicity became beyond tasteful, however I'm unsure how the discovery of a body after his search is somehow a validation of the idea that his initial involvement in the search was inappropriate?.... but I would add any kind of retrospective "told you so" comments are somewhat lacking in decorum.

 

[PhilM]

Yeh I get that, wasn't expecting it to just be dead easy but 3 weeks? Surely you go either side of the river right to the bloody bay checking.

The issue is that it isn't the simple. I'll give a few examples I've heard today already: "It's only a mile away" Okay - a mile by the crow flies or in the river?

I have an inkling it'll be the former: "But, they've got sonar." I know Hollywood's depiction of things overstates stuff, but what do people think sonar is?

These aren't large, powerful sets, but rather small sets, which aren't likely to decipher the different between a large tree trunk/branch or other debris.

So, we're talking about a search of a river that's likely over a mile long between the hours of 9am - 4pm. If they searched every day over a three-week period...

... that's close to 74 m to search each day, so imagine if you're searching the river to the mouth. They'll have studied the weather, currents and lay of the river.

As I said earlier, this will be done with little to no visibility, so it's a fingertip search and done properly - no point in redoing it. That's very, very labour-intensive.

Without talking about this case, but as @tsubaki mentioned, a body can go under the water and not come back up for a period of time if caught in currents or debris.

In most cases, a body that's gone into water will be found when it comes back up; that's maybe not what people want to hear, yet that's how it actually is.

Now I know the Mersey is hugely different (large, tidal estuary), but they've found a few bodies over the years under the Pier Head that have been there for ages.

But I'm digressing. My overarching point is that the cops may have made mistakes, and if they have then they will eventually, and rightfully, get criticised.

However, most of the criticism from people is completely unfounded and based on little subject knowledge, with the press and social media fuelling it all.

I totally get the family believing she wasn't in the river because ultimately to admit that the river was the most likely scenario is to accept that she's likely dead.

Who'd want to do that? It's reasonable for them to have hope... but the rest of the dross out there who've chatted absolute unsubstantiated wham can do one.