Lowste
Player Valuation: £30m
I see us between 5th & 9th, sadly that is were we sit in the big scheme of things
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steken1
Player Valuation: £70m
Definitely, a really good season with a bit of luck gets us towards the top.
A poor run of injuries or a lot of cup games sees us towards the mid table positions. 'Twas ever thus.
I ain't buying that, Finn.
We put the Europa League to bed in Wolfsburg at the end of November.
In the weeks prior to that we had been climbing the EPL table and progressing serenely in our EL group losing only one in seven league games, I think, and that very unluckily at OT where only a missed penno and a world class performance from De Gea denied us at least a point.
The nadir came in the months of December and January when the only EL game was a dead rubber home to Krasnadar when we fielded a second XI.
Now, given we did not have to compete in the CC 1 Cup first round due to EL involvement we effectively played only four extra fixtures in those early months of the season when the players were fresh.
Russia aside, there was no great travelling involved.
Northern Germany ain't that far and Lille involved less travel than an away game at Saints.
I think it is too easy to blame the EL for our poor season.
For me, injuries to key players and the much documented "individual errors" are what cost us.
Plus the too strict adherence to Philosophyball when the likes of Hull, Stoke and Baggies were able to come to Goodison in midwinter and leave with something.
Not the EL.
That's what I think anyway
steken1
Player Valuation: £70m
I ain't buying that, Finn.
We put the Europa League to bed in Wolfsburg at the end of November.
In the weeks prior to that we had been climbing the EPL table and progressing serenely in our EL group losing only one in seven league games, I think, and that very unluckily at OT where only a missed penno and a world class performance from De Gea denied us at least a point.
The nadir came in the months of December and January when the only EL game was a dead rubber home to Krasnadar when we fielded a second XI.
Now, given we did not have to compete in the CC 1 Cup first round due to EL involvement we effectively played only four extra fixtures in those early months of the season when the players were fresh.
Russia aside, there was no great travelling involved.
Northern Germany ain't that far and Lille involved less travel than an away game at Saints.
I think it is too easy to blame the EL for our poor season.
For me, injuries to key players and the much documented "individual errors" are what cost us.
Plus the too strict adherence to Philosophyball when the likes of Hull, Stoke and Baggies were able to come to Goodison in midwinter and leave with something.
Not the EL.
That's what I think anyway
I think it's all of them things and a few more. I think the EL had a bigger impact as the manager didn't know to prepare the players, rather than the physical and mental toll of playing matches
Fair point.
I ain't buying that, Finn.
We put the Europa League to bed in Wolfsburg at the end of November.
In the weeks prior to that we had been climbing the EPL table and progressing serenely in our EL group losing only one in seven league games, I think, and that very unluckily at OT where only a missed penno and a world class performance from De Gea denied us at least a point.
The nadir came in the months of December and January when the only EL game was a dead rubber home to Krasnadar when we fielded a second XI.
Now, given we did not have to compete in the CC 1 Cup first round due to EL involvement we effectively played only four extra fixtures in those early months of the season when the players were fresh.
Russia aside, there was no great travelling involved.
Northern Germany ain't that far and Lille involved less travel than an away game at Saints.
I think it is too easy to blame the EL for our poor season.
For me, injuries to key players and the much documented "individual errors" are what cost us.
Plus the too strict adherence to Philosophyball when the likes of Hull, Stoke and Baggies were able to come to Goodison in midwinter and leave with something.
Not the EL.
That's what I think anyway
All of this is correct
USABlue
Player Valuation: £70m
this year was a result of many things coming together ( cliched perfect storm if you will) older players who were key contributors last season getting on ( howard distin barry), new EL challenge, injuries ( pretty much everyone has missed decent time- Stones missed 3 months), plus teams figuring out to sit back and make us break them down which we don't have the ability in the squad atm to do. Can't really pin it on any one thing.
Lowste
Player Valuation: £30m
Totally agree
We need so many factors to go our way to get into that top 4, it kills me to think this way but I have to be realistical.
I do believe giving your manager time to build a squad is the best option, not changing at every bad turn
hibbos left peg
Player Valuation: £1m
I think give him till Christmas, if were playing as we were early this season he needs to go, we can't have a team that only turns up in the last third of the season, and that would mean the first season was an anomaly and this is the norm.
however if were doin well, it would mean that this is the blip season and we should definitely keep him.
there are too many knee jerk catastrophists out there.
if we'd have sacked moyes after his terrible 2nd season i reckon we would have gone the way of leeds
however if were doin well, it would mean that this is the blip season and we should definitely keep him.
there are too many knee jerk catastrophists out there.
if we'd have sacked moyes after his terrible 2nd season i reckon we would have gone the way of leeds
steken1
Player Valuation: £70m
I agree. The only edge we've got on richer clubs is we can have time and patience to build. It's never going to be a constant upward trend.
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
We came off a heavy schedule in the EL and straight into a heavy Christmas/January schedule with two games a week (remember we had two cup games also against WHU).I ain't buying that, Finn.
We put the Europa League to bed in Wolfsburg at the end of November.
In the weeks prior to that we had been climbing the EPL table and progressing serenely in our EL group losing only one in seven league games, I think, and that very unluckily at OT where only a missed penno and a world class performance from De Gea denied us at least a point.
The nadir came in the months of December and January when the only EL game was a dead rubber home to Krasnadar when we fielded a second XI.
Now, given we did not have to compete in the CC 1 Cup first round due to EL involvement we effectively played only four extra fixtures in those early months of the season when the players were fresh.
Russia aside, there was no great travelling involved.
Northern Germany ain't that far and Lille involved less travel than an away game at Saints.
I think it is too easy to blame the EL for our poor season.
For me, injuries to key players and the much documented "individual errors" are what cost us.
Plus the too strict adherence to Philosophyball when the likes of Hull, Stoke and Baggies were able to come to Goodison in midwinter and leave with something.
Not the EL.
That's what I think anyway
It's utter nonsense to say that the schedule wasn't punishing for Everton this season.
As soon as we got a game per week extended run, look what happens.
No way. We'd have been multiple league champions by now and would be CL mainstays. Isn't that right @davek?
Lowste
Player Valuation: £30m
Some people need to realise this this
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
I have no idea what that means.
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