Martinez Sentiment Poll: In or Out

Martinez

  • In

    Votes: 504 46.4%
  • Out

    Votes: 583 53.6%

  • Total voters
    1,087
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I know, lets compare Vitors 3 different League Titles in 3 different countries to El Fraudos League One Play Off Final award.

LOL
I always said whoever we got was a gamble, Vitor wasn't my choice, but I am
not going to sit here and say look at him now, so I was right. I wanted RM as I liked his style of football and his attacking ways, but he was a gamble.
Sack RM you go down a dangerous path as we create a culture of hiring and firing, just trying to find the right man.
I would be saying the same if we had Vitor as our manager
 
Thrown out of the place because they found him in a wheelie bin swigging a bottle of mentholated spirits and screaming "up the Crusaders".

The feller's a wreck. The only place that'd take him was a basket case country like Greece.

Methylated Davek....unless you purposely meant of the minty variety. Either way I'm sure he was fantastic at drinking it.
 
Vadis Odjidja-Ofoe. Missing piece in the jigsaw, that lad.

Now failing at norwich.
Ace on Champ man though yeah.

Christ they're all coming back to me now. Remember when Dalglish signed Rafael Schiedt for 5m at Celtic ? Played about 2 games i think before realising he was actually schiedt.
 
Vadis Odjidja-Ofoe. Missing piece in the jigsaw, that lad.

Now failing at norwich.

And his ex-team Bruges won the cup last night, progressed to the final 8 of the Europa and are flying high in the league.....all since they flogged him and his duff knee.
 
Michy Batshuayi

Hah, there's another one.

Nothing illustrates this forum more then when someone asked for a jarg rumour so I googled some european football teams.

Found a goalkeeper in the french second flight, a cb playing in the belgian relegation fight and a pole playing in the german lower leagues and posted them as targets I'd heard about.

Within 5 minutes, I'd had detailed reports on all 3 and whether they would improve us or not.
 
Lorik Cana was 1 of mine, I fumed when he signed for Sunderland, ended up stinking the league out and koffing after abar 6months.

Roger Espinoza is mine. Saw him playing one olympic game vs a not arsed brazil and decided he was world class.

And now he's back in the usa after not getting first team minutes in the second flight for wigan.
 
It'd be easy to give critics what they want. Bending the knee and becoming something you're not to get out of a tight spot.

Yeah, that's the fabric in a manager I want leading us.

Maybe throw a few players under the bus too like Gnashers. That'd be good to hear as well.

Come on Roberto lad, stop being so protective of your players. Lay into them and keep your job you divvy.
Who mentioned that dolt across the park or throwing his players under the bus?

What I was asking for was just more honesty and less cliched clap trap, but I suppose when the man himself is still convinced he's completely right when it comes to philosophy, when the facts shout out the complete converse, then I've got no chance have I.......
 
I have mixed feelings about this. While the performance this season was despicable, I cannot help but think back at last season. It's impossible not to give Martinez credit for that, but it's still blury to me, why he made all these woeful decisions this time around. Maybe it was an uninspired attempt to balance the efforts for both BPL and Europa League, otherwise I cannot explain why he'd keep Stones and Besic on the bench against a vital match against Kyiev, or why he would stick with the same formation in the second half when dominated 3-1. Also trying to work out why that under-developed Alcaraz is still in the rooster, let alone in the first 11, and all I can think of is a personal bond he brought with him from Wigan. One option would be to let Roberto run another season, without the burden of and European competition, and see how it turns out, but that could prove costly and nerve-racking. A safer bet would be to get someone else, who could manage both. Seriously, I jumped on the anti-martinez bandwagon very late in the season, tried to back him for as long as I could. But he has the same players at his disposal, give or take, and there can't be that much of a difference between Everton and the other teams. It all narrows down to the manager.
 
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http://metro.co.uk/2015/03/23/why-r...ves-the-chance-to-rebuild-at-everton-5116936/

Why Roberto Martinez deserves the chance to rebuild at Everton

Given Everton’s frightening inconsistency throughout this tortuous season has seen them drop alarmingly close to the relegation zone, their first back-to-back league wins since October have been gleefully welcomed by the supporters.

However, the fact those two wins – against Newcastle and QPR – came either side of Thursday’s embarrassing Europa League capitulation in Kiev neatly sums Everton’s campaign up.

For every tentative step forward, there has been two lurching strides back, explaining why a number of supporters have grown increasingly exasperated at the team and manager Roberto Martinez.

After beginning the season with genuine hopes of competing for a top four place, the team’s aspirations have been slowly eroded to the extent that Premier League survival is all they have to play for by mid-March.

Some Everton supporters (if indeed it was Everton fans) even took it upon themselves to daub Goodison Park with graffiti over the weekend calling for Martinez to be sacked.

The calls for the Spaniard to go still thankfully stem from a vocal minority, with most supporters of the opinion he deserves time to re-build and – crucially – learn from the mistakes made this season.

Martinez has always spoken about building for the long-term, a project the supporters completely bought into during his fabulous first season in charge. This year has been a huge test of the fans’ faith and patience, but the general consensus is we need to let things play out before making any reactionary short-term decisions.


That is certainly the case after Sunday’s scrappy 2-1 at Loftus Road, which lifts Everton nine points clear of the relegation zone and all but safe from the drop. With the pressure off now is the time to start looking ahead, using the remaining eight games to learn more about the team.

This season has proven a step too far for a number of players who need to be moved on in the summer. Tim Howard, Antolin Alcaraz, Sylvain Distin and Gareth Barry to name a few have all shown their age and look past their prime.

While others, such as Ross Barkley, have suffered from ‘second season syndrome’ not helped, especially in Barkley’s case, by having minimal rest last summer due to the World Cup.

Whether Martinez implements those changes remains to be seen. He has shown a reluctance to adapt this season even things were not going well, a stubbornness that has frustrated and worried the supporters in equal measure.

But Sunday’s win has given him vital breathing space in which to operate without the lurking presence of relegation on his shoulder.

If we head into the autumn still talking about the same problems and suffering the same results then his job may come under threat. But for now Martinez deserves the chance to put things right and show this season as but a blip on the pathway to long-term success.

Whether he takes that chance is another matter, which is why most Evertonians remain edgy despite remaining supportive of the manager.
 
I don't think it's a player issue with the system, I just don't think it works now. Even Barca have abandoned it now as it doesn't work and they certainly have the players.

The system has been dissected.

At least we got this beauty of a match before it was finally laid to bed.

 
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