marty mcfly
Player Valuation: £40m
Top 4?
So you are saying we have a better squad than two of Chelsea, City, Arsenal, Liverpool or Spurs?
Which two?
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So you are saying we have a better squad than two of Chelsea, City, Arsenal, Liverpool or Spurs?
Which two?
We were 5th last year and a few teams below us had better squads.
I am saying we are capable of getting in the top 4 with these players but we are looking like it could be the bottom 4 this year.
My point is we have the squad to do much much better
3-0, massively impressive.
1966efc
Player Valuation: £20m
I think you're wrong but respect your point of view.
I'd like you to go through the names of each member of our squad and describe why they're better than the top five or six.
Woolly Blue
Player Valuation: £80m
Leicester, Burnley and Villa losing. WBA already lost. S'land to play against the Irons shortly.
If it stays like it it then it's down to us. A win tomorrow and we'd be 9 points clear of the drop-zone with eight games to go.
If that happens then this poll becomes even more academic than it currently is, because a win would all but guarantee us Premiership footie next season and Martinez won't be shown the door. We shouldn't be where we are, he's at fault for that, but we all know he'll be given every chance next season to show us if he can turn it round.
If it stays like it it then it's down to us. A win tomorrow and we'd be 9 points clear of the drop-zone with eight games to go.
If that happens then this poll becomes even more academic than it currently is, because a win would all but guarantee us Premiership footie next season and Martinez won't be shown the door. We shouldn't be where we are, he's at fault for that, but we all know he'll be given every chance next season to show us if he can turn it round.
Woolly Blue
Player Valuation: £80m
... but he will be given that chance. You know that, I know that and everyone who posts here knows that.
For better or worse we ( well, the board ) will give him every chance to show that this bloody awful season was a one-off. In theory, if he rinses and repeats for the first half of next season it will set us back, but in practice it won't set us that far back. If he gets a half way decent start to the season, then he'll get the full season. If he continues with our current form then, chances are, he won't last the whole season.
Worst case scenario is we lose a season ( or half a season ) and we have to rebuild with a different manager. In the long term, that's not actually that awful, it just feels like it to us. Best case scenario, he learns from his mistakes and we get back to something like we were last season. I'm by no means convinced he'll learn, but I reckon it's a chance worth taking.
This is spot on.
streeky
Player Valuation: £35m
The discussion about our style of play is interesting in that we do usually play nicer football under Martinez ,but what the point of domination possession and controlling the game , when , if the opposition get the ball they are allowed to cause us serious problems because we fail to pressure the player on the ball and defend to deep. These to problems have been evident since the first game this year and were brutally exposed on Thursday. Thank god for Lennon last week ,his work rate and pressing was infectious, he will be a very important player for us in our last few games.
hktoffee
Birds of a feather flock together
I don't understand. Why can't Martinez just shut the f up rather than defending Alcaraz? No one other than xyz will think Alcaraz is not poor against Kiev. Why put more fuel into the fire when we all know Alcaraz is a bloody awful defender?
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royalblue66
Player Valuation: £70m
Anyone with serious health problems would be advised to support another club next season, like the saying goes,fasten your seat belts.
GwladysBlue
Player Valuation: £70m
Although I agree that he will be given another season, I think that is a very risky decision.
Public opinion is now against him, he has absolutely destroyed this team and near enough all of the blame is at his door. Imagine if we lost the opening two or so fixtures of next season? There would be turmoil and it could again disrupt us for the entire season. We then slip from this season being a 'blip' into something more, we'd have the other clubs circling for our best players.
With the stadium and the board we currently have. We could easily become the next Aston Villa, a big club just constantly hovering above the relegation zone, the scary thing is, they have a better infrastructure than us and a bigger population to exploit. No Manchester United, Manchester City or Liverpool on their door step either.
Thats probably my line of thinking.
We can either take a chance that the Manager we had last season comes back or take a chance on a different Manager who has never taken a Club to 5th in the Premiership.
If we start next season like we started this, you all have my word, Martinez wont last past October and I will be doing a 15 in Walton.
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