Martinez Sentiment Poll: In or Out

Martinez

  • In

    Votes: 504 46.4%
  • Out

    Votes: 583 53.6%

  • Total voters
    1,087
  • Poll closed .
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I feel he deserves another season.
What is so frustrating is that I see some fantastic stuff from both him and the team; its so far removed from the Moyes era which to be fair he is judged against right now and I include this season in that.

We dominated at Old Trafford for long spells/Emirates/Stamford Bridge. Yes we lost every one but when did we EVER do that under previous manager? We all yearned for the day we dared to take on these teams like this.

We cant compare this team to the team in the 80's. Its a different ball game and I know most of us wouldnt dream of it. But to WIN things, you must attack, control and outscore opponents.
I admit defending is crucial too and its something that he needs to get right. But I would rather go into a battle with Bobby than any manager since the 80's. At least we have a chance.
Last season wasnt a fluke; it wasnt Bobby getting lucky with Moyes team. It was Martinez and his coaching staff getting MORE from a group of players than his predecessor ever did. Even this season I could name performances where we have played better than ANYTHING served prior to his reign over the last 15 years or so.

Within the last 5 years or so we have got to one FA Cup final, two semi finals and one carling cup final. In each of those we all left the grounds saying 'why didnt we get at them..why didnt we go for the kill'. We were frustrated and annoyed that with someone with a bit of balls, we would have beat that god awful Liverpool team in the semi final, beaten Chelsea over two legs in the semi final of the league cup, gone for the 2nd in the cup final. Yes we beat UTD in a semi, but it was on pens, we never threatened and it was there reserves (doesnt take away the glory).

Its bordering on hysteria to now criticise when we actually do that in games. Yes he is naive at times, yes he is stubborn and yes, his team selections can be questionable. But the same goes with every manager.

Without Martinez we wouldnt have signed Rom; we wouldnt have signed up Barkley OR Stones on long term deals. Lets remember that.

I would say this season is an utter freak of a season for us for a number of reasons. Lets not forget the first quarter of the year we had a serious amount of injuries to KEY players for us; we dominated some games and were left reeling some god awful decisions from referees.

This adds to pressure; it makes players lose confidence and not themselves.

Bobby has earnt the right to be judged next season.
 
Think Baines and Oviedo would be fine at LB if garbutt doesn't sign(hopefully he does) as we won't have Europe. Hopefully some of the young guys can break through like browning. That being said we do need more than 2 signings for sure. Hopefully he makes use of the loan market like he did his first season

I'm incresingly thinking we should just make garbutt first choice, tbh. I think that would be enough to convince him to stay and if we think baines is past it, it would be the smart long term choice.

Be bold though.
 
I'm incresingly thinking we should just make garbutt first choice, tbh. I think that would be enough to convince him to stay and if we think baines is past it, it would be the smart long term choice.

Be bold though.
It probably would convince him to sign but not sure how it would affect the squad dynamic as it would require Leighton riding the pine or being sold (better than benching imo). Also I don't think he's past it really, most of the teams looked poor this year even younger guys like seamus
 
People criticise the Rat but you can tell he cares he may not be the greatest pundit but I put more stock in a man who in my mind was one of the defenders we ever had and along side Reidy ,Southall Sharpy and even Andy Gray have done enough for our club to earn the right to voice there opinion.

This x 1000.
 
I was annoyed last night about the result and performance, but Martinez can bring it back and he needs to take control of things again.

I can't think of any manager I'd prefer having than him realistically, and having a season like this would no doubt help us for next season.

Two £10-15m players in the summer and suddenly we're a serious force.
Many of us see it mate, but people who have the smell of blood in their nostrils want to bring Martinez down not because it's good for Everton but because they want to *win*.

Utterly pathetic.

I'm glad I dont inhabit their world. It must be a hellish place.
 
  1. RM has confirmed he lays no blame on Alcaraz for anything last night!
  2. unbelievable!
  3. Unless he is blaming the entire defence?

It's just words mate.
What he says in public and what he thinks / says in private are two different things

It's like when someone sl@gs your family off, you defend them to the hilt in public and then go home and say "what the f'in hell were you doing ?"
 
Many of us see it mate, but people who have the smell of blood in their nostrils want to bring Martinez down not because it's good for Everton but because they want to *win*.

Utterly pathetic.

I'm glad I dont inhabit their world. It must be a hellish place.

Its short termism to the extreme.

Were all annoyed and deservedly so.

But right now he has done more right than wrong in his time at the club.
 
LOL.

If people really think Dave is a kopite they need to give their heads a good sake

General point 1

If people want to call over posters kopites, either directly or indirectly, then, as Harry said, go ahead, make my day

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General point 2

@davek, don't overdo the popcorn, it's putting people off having a sensible debate.
I'd love a sensible debate mate. I've written literally thousands of words on the subject of what's going wrong and what can be done to arrest it (and so have many others), but it's countered by very *helpful* responses like "but he's a clown lad' from snides who just troll the place.

I thought after the Newcastle game we could get back to normal and have some serious analysis in a calmer climate, but that result last night has brought the crazies out from below the stairs again.
 
Its short termism to the extreme.

Were all annoyed and deservedly so.

But right now he has done more right than wrong in his time at the club.
Exactly right.

These people want to railroad the club into forcing this feller down the road.

They're very creepy people. I dont trust them one bit and I refuse to believe they have the best interests of Everton at heart. They just dont.
 
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