Manager, Long Term.

[Bob Elstone]

Eddie Howe - awful shout.

May as well call ourselves mid table FC with ambitions like Howe.

 

[McBain]

Long term management is an outdated model, football has moved on.

Employ the right technical staff behind the scenes, instill the values and hire coaches that fit that style of play.

Give them 3 year deals max, no success you're out and we move on. Managers have worked under zero pressure at EFC for far too long.

 

[Richie]

Get McCarthy in FFS

 

[Furey1878]

Fonseca or Tuchell.

 

[Toffe3m4n]

Eddie Howe

Bed.

 

[Saint Domingo]

Howe wouldn’t have the respect of the players. This squad is a horrific bunch. Most wouldn’t play for Martinez, they then stopped playing for Koeman, laughed in the face of Unsworth and pretty much wont play for Allardyce as soon as relegation fears ease (but then will when they’re back). If a manager gives them leeway they run all over it and sell him out, if he keeps them on a tight leash they resent it and down tools. Howe would be off on the back foot already. Delusional ego maniacs like Schneiderlin are not going to listen to what the ex Bournemouth manager says.

 

[Kenshin]

Like most people on here, I'm hoping we hire some one good looking with great hair.

So we can bald them in 3 years.

 

[Yarrgh]

Emery will definitely be sacked by PSG if they don't win the CL and even if they do they might anyway (Neymer dislikes him apparently). He was definitely interested a few years ago but we went Koeman instead. Could be worth keeping an eye on the situation.

Mancini would surely jump at the chance to come back to England with a big club. Transformed Man City across all the levels of the club most importantly changed their mentality. Won them their first trophy for decades and then kicked them on afterwards, getting stronger with each season which is something we never seem to do. Without a doubt the most important manager in their history.

Conte will surely leave Chelsea and perhaps it's worth a try? Where else will he go? Has achieved everything in Italy and has managed the national team so he won't go back there you'd think. Spain? Barca or Real aren't likely. Atletico have Simeone. Valencia or Sevilla don't have the money to compete which he'd want. Germany? Bayern will possibly want him but will he see that as any sort of challenge? Another PL club? Arsenal will be stuck with Wenger for a while longer. Klopp and Guardiola are going nowhere. Mourinho might get sacked but United you think won't want another volatile personality.


I'd like any of those three and come the summer they'll all very likely be available.

Have you ever been approached to become a director of football? You show more vision than chutzpah than the mob we have in charge. I am starting to come round to Mancini after talking to a City fan who detailed how he took them from bottom 3 to league champions, sorting out a bunch of highly paid and talented players so that they performed and had belief. A not dissimilar position to where we are now.

There are options out there. Pick a long term strategy for getting to the top and then go get the manager most closely aligned to that strategy. Unless that actually is Big Scam, in which case, change your strategy significantly from the gravy based one we currently have.

 

[Lanolin]

Howe wouldn’t have the respect of the players. This squad is a horrific bunch. Most wouldn’t play for Martinez, they then stopped playing for Koeman, laughed in the face of Unsworth and pretty much wont play for Allardyce as soon as relegation fears ease (but then will when they’re back). If a manager gives them leeway they run all over it and sell him out, if he keeps them on a tight leash they resent it and down tools. Howe would be off on the back foot already. Delusional ego maniacs like Schneiderlin are not going to listen to what the ex Bournemouth manager says.

They're different players!

It's literally a different squad. Our worst performance under Allardyce saw us use 14 players who had played a grand total of 5 games under Martinez. We can't seriously be suggesting that we've somehow managed to assemble 2 completely different squads which both contain only bad apples. It's an utterly absurd notion.

 

[Toffe3m4n]

Wouldn't say no to Mancini like... he'd have to ditch the scarves though.

 

[Saint Domingo]

They're different players!

It's literally a different squad. Our worst performance under Allardyce saw us use 14 players who had played a grand total of 5 games under Martinez. We can't seriously be suggesting that we've somehow managed to assemble 2 completely different squads which both contain only bad apples. It's an utterly absurd notion.

The culture has remained though! That’s my point. We need someone to come in and shake up the culture because new players CL e in and just slip straight into Everton mode of doing the bare minimum.

 

[radiostar]

Allardyce was a horrendous choice in the first place, only supported but he super fans and the "Moshiri does no wrong" brigade.

The pair are a disaster waiting to happen for Everton. We've had an abortion of a season and we aren't even at the worst yet!

 

[Lanolin]

The culture has remained though! That’s my point. We need someone to come in and shake up the culture because new players CL e in and just slip straight into Everton mode of doing the bare minimum.

That's not what you're saying though. You said 'this squad is a horrific bunch' so you're clearly talking about the players we currently have, despite them being a totally different bunch to the ones you also accuse of not playing for their manager. It makes no sense at all that we've signed a succession of players who are as unprofessional as you make out.

Yes you could argue that there's a mentality issue coming from the top (personally I don't buy it but it's a reasonable hypothesis) but you're not just talking about players not striving to be the very best they can be, you're talking about them downing tools entirely when they don't like something. That's not a culture, it's an attitude, and the chances of having bought/developed 50 players with that attitude is virtually nil.

 

[Saint Domingo]

That's not what you're saying though. You said 'this squad is a horrific bunch' so you're clearly talking about the players we currently have, despite them being a totally different bunch to the ones you also accuse of not playing for their manager. It makes no sense at all that we've signed a succession of players who are as unprofessional as you make out.

Yes you could argue that there's a mentality issue coming from the top (personally I don't buy it but it's a reasonable hypothesis) but you're not just talking about players not striving to be the very best they can be, you're talking about them downing tools entirely when they don't like something. That's not a culture, it's an attitude, and the chances of having bought/developed 50 players with that attitude is virtually nil.

So it’s not the players fault, there’s not a culture of failure in the club, then whose fault is it? Koeman has been successful elsewhere, as was Martinez, even Allardyce has done better than some of the horrific play we saw at Spurs and Arsenal. Where exactly does the problem lie?

For me there’s a long ingrained culture of failure and doing the bare minimum in the squad. Players like Jags Baines Howard etc. transferred over from Moyes and were seen as part of the furniture, untouchable, youve then seen players recruited who are either comfortable to slot into that Barry Rooney Cleverley Williams Schneiderlin etc. see the club as a stepping stone Lukaku Deulofeu Stones, or who are just not good enough at all.

There also seems to be s strange disconnect in the squad that has meant players like Besic Sandro Klaassen Tosun Vlasic Lookman have struggled to settle at all.

How many players in the squad seem hungry to prove anything? Walcott (will be interesting to see how long his new club form lasts before the boys club subsume him), Siggurdson, Coleman, Pickford, Niasse. That’s about it.

There is a culture of failure and bare minimum is acceptable that has either been created by the managers players or board and is now feeding itself in a never ending cycle where no matter if we change the managers or change some players the results stay the same.

We need to route out the poisonous weed at the centre of it because merely swapping Allardyce for Howe as I said at the beginning will have no effect. He will be chewed up and spat out just as quick as others have been.

 

[Aqui1a]

Fonseca ideally, failing that Tuchel or Rowett.

You'd really take Fonseca over Tuchel?