Malaga CF vs Everton FC- Saturday 11/08/12 - KO: 20:00

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Happens every pre season we just don't give a s***, we're just saving our energy for United which I think we'll win. keep the faith. COYB
 
look if Neville is getting games in midfield at what 34 years of age we can forget about it, as for youth players if he is still
better than whats at the club they should forget about it.(n)
 
No, I'm reacting to the fact that the only two games we've played anything approaching decent football were against League 2 Morecambe and AEK reserves.

This pre season has been garbage and with three weeks to go, I wouldn't count on all those key players still being here.

Pre-season is about getting fit, end of.

The off the park stuff is far more important to defining a 'good pre-season'.

Last season was a **** pre-season - no signings, **** start, selling Arteta on deadline day and getting desperation loans in.

I've seen pre-seasons where we've won every game and still had a **** start.

People panic and worry about meaningless stuff on here far too much.
 
Pre-season is about getting fit, end of.

The off the park stuff is far more important to defining a 'good pre-season'.

Last season was a **** pre-season - no signings, **** start, selling Arteta on deadline day and getting desperation loans in.

We've started bad for what, 4 seasons in a row?

Were all the pre seasons that bad? In one of them we broke our transfer record didn't we?
 
Happens every season, like. We always play **** in preseason and then start really really well.

But we never play any really good teams in pre-season!

What we need to do is play a really good Champions League team in pre-season, to prepare us for the new season!

Oh.
 
But we never play any really good teams in pre-season!

What we need to do is play a really good Champions League team in pre-season, to prepare us for the new season!

Oh.

We played Villareal last season who were a good team at that point. Wolfsburg the season before, and the same goes for them.
 
We've started bad for what, 4 seasons in a row?

Were all the pre seasons that bad? In one of them we broke our transfer record didn't we?

Some of the pre-seasons were good. We just start seasons ****. F*** knows why. It's not as simple as saying 'the pre-seasons to blame'.

Personally, I think it's down to transfer uncertainty; not making signings early enough or speculation regarding selling key players carrying on past the start of the season.

Fingers crossed, but we've made early signings and thus far have managed to retain key players. We'll see if this has an effect. I really don't think losing 1-0 away to Malaga will make any difference at all, when all is said and done.

We beat Athens 4-1 and the moaners claim it's Athens reserves.
It's pointed out that Malaga finished 4th last season and are in the CL - the moaners claim they've sold some of their best players.

Some people just want to moan for moanings' sake.
 
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