Lukaku V Kane and Barkley V Alli

[Stephenlloyd]

You are right they are, they should never be compared in the first place. For what it's worth, I'd have Alli every time if I could only choose one, goals in games are what it's about and Alli scores them more than anyone else in his position. I think only Mane compares and he again is more of an inside forward where as Alli is more of an Attacking Midfielder.

Barkley is more like Eriksen for sure, and Eriksen scores and assists more, covers more ground and completes more passes.

Im not sure how they compare on alL Stats
Think Barkley 7 assists this season now Eriksen has 10. Last year Barkley had 25 goals and assists in all competitions that was more than Ali and Eriksen.

I wouldn't swap Barkley with Eriksen. And think over the next 2 years his all round game will be better
Especially when he has better players with him

 

[maccavennie]

It's average by being 20 goals better than Harry Kane.

I think what he's saying mate is that because Lukaku could tie his shoelaces 3 years earlier than Kane, we are in fact distorting the very clear stats that are being presented to Jack. Kane was a late bloomer after all so let's dismiss 20 of Lukakus goals as they don't count.

 

[Prevenger17]

Lukaku needed Vertonghen to fall on his arse. Kane is a proper striker, great feet and control. Better team player as well.

 

[paulbefc]

We can pick and choose past seasons to suit ourselves all we like, but right now Kane is playing in a far better side than Lukaku and yet they've scored almost the same number of goals.

Kane has started 3 fewer games, but taken 4 penalties.

You don't even have to put Lukaku in a better side for him to score more. If he takes our (I think) 2 pens this season, he's outscored Kane in an inferior side.

 

[Prevenger17]

We can pick and choose past seasons to suit ourselves all we like, but right now Kane is playing in a far better side than Lukaku and yet they've scored almost the same number of goals.

Kane has started 3 fewer games, but taken 4 penalties.

You don't even have to put Lukaku in a better side for him to score more. If he takes our (I think) 2 pens this season, he's outscored Kane in an inferior side.

Lukaku isn't fit to lace his boots, Paul. Our Rom blindness is destroying us by the week

 

[Jack1882]

what's that meant to tell us? that Kane scored 6 goals more. You said Lukakus scoring record was average. So just to help you out as you seem to be struggling Lukaku has played 122 Premier League games for Everton and has scored 61 goals ( that's a goal every 2 games if you can't count ). He actually averages a goal a game in the fa cup and more than a goal a game in the Europa League

Can you confirm on what planet that is an average striker? Those stats are based on us finishing 5th, 11th, 11th, and currently 7th.

In your own time Jack.

It's actually 130 Everton appearances and 61 goals for Lukaku less than 1 in 2.

Kane is 104 Spurs appearances 68 goals much better than 1 in 2.

 

[Prevenger17]

I wouldn't swap Barkley with Eriksen.

Madness. I like Barkley but that is a mad thing to say

 

[bullybeef]

Both Kane and Deli Ali shat all over Rom and Ross today.

Strange one cos I rate our two much more than I do theirs and I'm not just being biased.

Spurs today were hungrier and much more confident than we were. That's what won them the game.

 

[Billy Dean]

Up until calendar year 2016 Rom/Kane had similar goals per games at international level. Rom has scored more in 2016, helped by matches against the likes of Estonia.

 

[Stephenlloyd]

Madness. I like Barkley but that is a mad thing to say

Opinions mate
I can remember plenty of times in the last few years. Where Eriksen has gone missing for a couple of month.
I think Barkley is a more talented footballer. Hopefully with better coaching and better players around him he will start to shine.

I think that's already started

 

[Prevenger17]

Strange one cos I rate our two much more than I do theirs and I'm not just being biased.

Yes you are

 

[jinkyali]

Thats a fair point. Kane I still think works harder for the team, but Rom's power gives him an edge. I think Rom is quicker and stronger but Kane is a clever player with better movement. As I think Neville said, if you were a team who creates chances Kane is the man. If you are a side struggling then Lukaku can get you up the pitch.

At the moment I think Kane shades it. However I think Lukaku will be the better player longer term. I am also trying to give some balance to the "Lukaku's record is inferior to Kane's" though where people are picking and choosing the seasons they are using. We should use the entirety of the evidence shouldn't we?

Rom has 139 goals in 306 games in senior football.

Kane has 108 goals in 217 senior football.

To me that suggests Kane is superior .

 

[maccavennie]

It's actually 130 Everton appearances and 61 goals for Lukaku less than 1 in 2.

Kane is 104 Spurs appearances 68 goals much better than 1 in 2.

lol look at you using Google and finding out he's had 8 sub appearances.

Go back and find a post where I questioned Kanes scoring record. You won't find one. I'll pull you up though when you pop on here saying one of ours has an average scoring record when he blatantly hasn't but you weren't arsed to check on that were you.

 

[Primativ]

You are picking time periods that shut mate, not me. You are picking the last 3 years, when Everton finished 11th twice and then have a new manager.

I am looking at their careers in their entirety. Or a longer time period to judge (i.e. 5 years). Kane has been playing Premier league football for the last 5 years, he just hasn't been playing it very well. He couldn't get a goal or game at Norwich for example, all the while Lukaku was banging in more goals than him.

So yes, lets look at stats. Answer me yes and no. Has Kane score 11+ league goals in each of his 5 seasons in the Premier League? Has Lukaku managed less than 4 goals in at least 2 of the last 5 seasons? Answer these questions honestly, and you will find the answer you are looking for with who's in who's shadows.

Haha are you serious?! Kane broke his foot in only his second league game for Norwich, and then returned to Spurs. What on earth do you mean he has been playing PL football for five years but hasn't been playing it very well? He has played PL football for three years and has been brilliant since he broke through. Is scoring 68 goals in 105 appearances not playing very well? Hahaha, yeah good one mate.

 

[Jack1882]

lol look at you using Google and finding out he's had 8 sub appearances.

Go back and find a post where I questioned Kanes scoring record. You won't find one. I'll pull you up though when you pop on here saying one of ours has an average scoring record when he blatantly hasn't but you weren't arsed to check on that were you.

He does have an average scoring record though... 20 league goals per season has always been the benchmark for strikers. He hasn't done that once yet.

On his day Lukaku is amazing but he's been inconsistent for patches in every season and it's tanked his scoring record. Lukaku's strike rate is average, it's not meant to be offensive but it's just the facts.