Lukaku V Kane and Barkley V Alli

[paulbefc]

You based your whole argument on stats which you now argue are worthless?!

???

This entire time I've been saying Kane has been playing in a better team and that should be factored in.

If you actually read those posts you've posted they all say that.

 

[paulbefc]

It is average yes. I won't back down from that. Lukaku's scoring rate is average compared to the strikers he is compared with.

See that's just ridiculous.

 

[jinkyali]

???

This entire time I've been saying Kane has been playing in a better team and that should be factored in.

If you actually read those posts you've posted they all say that.

You continually refer to number of assists, penalties..even appearances!

 

[Prevenger17]

If only we could have had a game of football to decide which is the best pairing of the options we were given from the title.

 

[paulbefc]

You continually refer to number of assists, penalties..even appearances!

Yes, with context!

That's pretty much been my point the entire time mate.

 

[Jack1882]

Stick to answering the questions I put to you mate. Has Lukaku ever scored less than 4 in two PL seasons he's featured in? Has Kane scored double figures in each of his last 5 seasons. I am serious, if Kane is so good you will be able to answer these questions.

(Oh and the broken foot excuse, Lukaku also broke his foot in one of those seasons and still scored double figures).

What on earth kind of argument is this?

Kane had 14 Premier League appearances (7 as sub) total before 14/15... how can he score when he's not on a PL pitch?

Lukaku had 76 Premier League appearances before 14/15.

 

[Armel]

Think personalities are a generally dying attribute in footballers tbh

Yes but he could try closing his mouth from time to time for starters. He's particularly devoid of any personality. Ibrahimovic, Aguëro ...; all interesting personalities and then you have Kane.

 

[Simon baker]

It is average yes. I won't back down from that. Lukaku's scoring rate is average compared to the strikers he is compared with.

Argh so you add the precursor of compared to the strikers he is compared with.

 

[Billy Dean]

Kane has a superior record against the Sky clubs.

 

[jinkyali]

Yes, with context!

That's pretty much been my point the entire time mate.

Rom has scored 9 out of 13 appearances.
Kane has scored 15 out of 20.
Need to let the penalty argument go; pretty insignificant

 

[Jack1882]

???

This entire time I've been saying Kane has been playing in a better team and that should be factored in.

If you actually read those posts you've posted they all say that.

When I give you data from 2 comparable seasons from teams at a similar level you palmed it off despite Kane's numbers being better.

 

[Papa Shango]

Kane is a tremendous player, he has no real weaknesses. Lukaku is probably more of a pure goalscorer.

Alli is a proper winner, an arrogant little git, something Barkley lacks. He is a right snide though so I don't like him.

 

[Billy Dean]

Rom has scored 9 out of 13 appearances.
Kane has scored 15 out of 20.
Need to let the penalty argument go; pretty insignificant

It's not like Rom doesn't take any penalties.

 

[Prevenger17]

Kane and Alli were in a team that absolutely mopped the floor with us today. The scoreline was unbelievably flattering. Ross played very well, not as good as Alli. Rom scored a goal, Kane scored 2. For a forum that only looks at the amount of goals Rom has scored when judging him, we have some remarkably flexible thinkers on here

 

[paulbefc]

When I give you data from 2 comparable seasons from teams at a similar level you palmed it off despite Kane's numbers being better.

No that was a good post and a good point. It was however using two completely different seasons for each player and was several years ago.

If you want to ignore assists completely and if we want to overlook penalties (neither should be overlooked, but it seems you'd like to), Lukaku, this season is only 1 goal behind Kane despite playing in a considerably weaker side. I won't overlook the fact Kane's started 3 less games, but it wouldn't make a massive difference, looking at goals per game. If I was picky about penalties, it wouldn't look quite so good for Kane.

To me that indicates pretty clearly that Lukaku's working better with what he has. I think it's beyond doubt he'd score and assist plenty more playing with Alli and Eriksen too, so I'm in pretty much no doubt who I think is better.