Lukaku V Kane and Barkley V Alli

[Primativ]

Yes it is. He's scored 4 unopposed shots (no defenders) from 12 yards out to get to the tally he has, whereas Lukaku has worked for every goal he has scored this season.

No it isn't, if Lukaku isn't good enough to be the main penalty taker that is his problem. Anyway, you make it sound like all Kane does is score penalties.

Let's look at the stats

Kane 22 apps, 19 goals.

Lukaku 26 apps, 18 goals.

Even taking away Kane's 4 penalty goals, at his goals per game rate this season he would still score more than Lukaku.

Kane has 68 goals in 108 PL games. That smashes Lukaku's goal record by a distance.

 

[Primativ]

Nonsense.

Lukaku is matching Kane for goals while being served mostly by pretty unimpressive footballers, while Kane plays alongside Alli and Eriksen ffs.

Without penalties.

Lennon and Valencia have got games for us this season. It's a minor miracle Lukaku will get 25 this season. I don't think Kane would break 20 goals for us. Half Lukaku's goals involve effectively assisting himself by carrying the ball 20-40 yards before scoring. Something Kane absolutely cannot do.

Hold on, many in this thread are saying Barkley is better than Alli, which is laughable in it's own right, but now you say Kane has Alli to play with yet Lukaku only has Barkley? SO which is it? Is Barkley better than Alli (which he isn't) ? and if he is, you can't use your first sentence as any excuse.


Come back to me when Lukaku manages three successive seasons of 20 + PL goals.....I doubt he will ever do it to be honest, considering most strikers don't manage it in the PL. Look I'm a big fan of Lukaku, but Kane has the edge, his record proves it.

 

[Runcornblue52]

Hit and hope? Come off it, it was a fine strike. Is that what we call it now when players score from outside the box? Just a hit and hope?

He said after the game that it was windy so he chanced it.......That's hit and hope !

 

[Jack1882]

Kane has a better Premier League goal per minute ratio than players like Suarez, van Nistelrooy, Shearer, Drogba, and Van Persie. How people can still underrate him is remarkable.

There's also a lot of contradiction in here, half say Kane owes everything to the rest of the Spurs team, and the other half think Alli is worse than Barkley.

 

[TraffordBlue]

No it isn't, if Lukaku isn't good enough to be the main penalty taker that is his problem. Anyway, you make it sound like all Kane does is score penalties.

Let's look at the stats

Kane 22 apps, 19 goals.

Lukaku 26 apps, 18 goals.

Even taking away Kane's 4 penalty goals, at his goals per game rate this season he would still score more than Lukaku.

Kane has 68 goals in 108 PL games. That smashes Lukaku's goal record by a distance.

I'm not suggesting all Kane does is score penalties though. Kane is an excellent player, I am not disputing that and I am not saying Lukaku is comfortably better or anything. I said I think they are at a very similar level, but Kane has profited from 4 goals out of his 19 which is over 20% of his tally. I would expect anyone in the crowd with a half decent footballing ability to be able to score at least 1 penalty out of 4 even against Premier League goalkeepers. How many in the crowd could get themselves in the positions that Kane or Lukaku do for their goals from open play, or score Kane's 1st, or Lukaku's? Being a good penalty taker is a good trait for Kane, but it doesn't define him as he top striker he is.

No one can argue with Kane's scoring record either, but you are ignoring that Kane plays for a side that has been in the top 2-4 for the last couple of seasons, and Lukaku has played in an 11th place side, and now 7th.

 

[Primativ]

He said after the game that it was windy so he chanced it.......That's hit and hope !

No, it's because he's a sublime striker of the ball at distance and knows he has a chance to score if given space.

 

[Runcornblue52]

No, it's because he's a sublime striker of the ball at distance and knows he has a chance to score if given space.

No . It means that Kane the Spurs striker is more honest than Primativ the Spurs fan

 

[Simon baker]

Hit and hope? Come off it, it was a fine strike. Is that what we call it now when players score from outside the box? Just a hit and hope?

He scored so it's foolish to suggest anything other than he made the correct decision but 9 times out of 10 that's a regulation save.

You watch Kane closely he constantly shoots when there are players better placed than him this some would suggest is a good trait to have in a striker however check his assists out.

He can finsish no doubt about it but he is clearly at his level in the premier league he looked absolutely terrible in the champions league & Even Worse at interntional level.

for me the majority of his goals come through his sheer hard work which is great the lad nearly got thrown out of the youth set up at Tottenham every year as he was supposedly the worst player in so many tests speed agility strength etc.

He had loan after loan Millwall fans loved him for being basically crap couldn't get a game at Norwich or lecicester he is at his peak he ain't never getting better & I don't see him doing well in the champions league not at spurs anyway.

Does any of that mean lukaku is better than him not really but I bet all defenders prefer playing against Kane & I'll bet lukaku's attributes will translate to goals at a higher level.

 

[paulbefc]

Hold on, many in this thread are saying Barkley is better than Alli, which is laughable in it's own right, but now you say Kane has Alli to play with yet Lukaku only has Barkley? SO which is it? Is Barkley better than Alli (which he isn't) ? and if he is, you can't use your first sentence as any excuse.


Come back to me when Lukaku manages three successive seasons of 20 + PL goals.....I doubt he will ever do it to be honest, considering most strikers don't manage it in the PL. Look I'm a big fan of Lukaku, but Kane has the edge, his record proves it.

Alli is a far superior player to Barkley currently. Barkley has the higher potential, but hasn't fulfilled much of it. Alli's pretty much exactly the strike partner Lukaku has been wanting all season. We've had to make do with Enner Valencia.

Eriksen is a superb player. He's a good 20 levels above anything we have to play behind Lukaku.

Combined, these two make our support to our striker look awful. Again, Enner Valencia and Aaron Lennon have been getting games for us this season. That's why our striker got one chance to work with all game today and Kane a hatful. You pretty much never see Lukaku miss two big chances like that in a game.

Any reasonable person taking the above and penalties into account (Kane has scored 11) would see this gives Kane a huge advantage.

Also,

PL assists since 2013:

Lukaku 21

Kane 9.

 

[Jack1882]

He had loan after loan Millwall fans loved him for being basically crap couldn't get a game at Norwich or lecicester he is at his peak he ain't never getting better & I don't see him doing well in the champions league not at spurs anyway.

He was loved at Millwall for scoring 7 goals in 14 starts and winning their young player of the year award. People who haven't got a clue are always so sure of themselves when they talk about Kane's youth career but before his Leicester loan he was very highly rated.

He had 5 appearances for Norwich all from the bench and then broke his foot and returned to Spurs. At Leicester Nigel Pearson didn't have a clue and put him as a left winger, most of his time was sat alongside Jamie Vardy on the bench because Pearson preferred David Nugent.

There's a reason he was starting in every England age group. Go look up the Jermain Defoe interview where he talks about how good Kane was at finishing while he was at Spurs, said he always knew Kane would become a top class striker.

 

[TraffordBlue]

He scored so it's foolish to suggest anything other than he made the correct decision but 9 times out of 10 that's a regulation save.

You watch Kane closely he constantly shoots when there are players better placed than him this some would suggest is a good trait to have in a striker however check his assists out.

He can finsish no doubt about it but he is clearly at his level in the premier league he looked absolutely terrible in the champions league & Even Worse at interntional level.

for me the majority of his goals come through his sheer hard work which is great the lad nearly got thrown out of the youth set up at Tottenham every year as he was supposedly the worst player in so many tests speed agility strength etc.

He had loan after loan Millwall fans loved him for being basically crap couldn't get a game at Norwich or lecicester he is at his peak he ain't never getting better & I don't see him doing well in the champions league not at spurs anyway.

Does any of that mean lukaku is better than him not really but I bet all defenders prefer playing against Kane & I'll bet lukaku's attributes will translate to goals at a higher level.

Not sure I agree with a lot of that. It's irrelevant what Millwall and Norwich fans say because Kane has developed in to a top Premier League striker. Weren't Leeds and Sheffield Wednesday fans dismissing Barkley's talent? Why would we take any notice of what they think lol. Kane's record is top class and he has proven that he is not just a one season wonder.

I do agree with your point about Kane being selfish. He was awful at the Euro's and quite often he does choose to shoot and it doesn't pay off. Obviously today it did pay off, but I thought Robles was poor for that goal. Should have kept it out.

 

[Primativ]

He scored so it's foolish to suggest anything other than he made the correct decision but 9 times out of 10 that's a regulation save.

You watch Kane closely he constantly shoots when there are players better placed than him this some would suggest is a good trait to have in a striker however check his assists out.

He can finsish no doubt about it but he is clearly at his level in the premier league he looked absolutely terrible in the champions league & Even Worse at interntional level.

for me the majority of his goals come through his sheer hard work which is great the lad nearly got thrown out of the youth set up at Tottenham every year as he was supposedly the worst player in so many tests speed agility strength etc.

He had loan after loan Millwall fans loved him for being basically crap couldn't get a game at Norwich or lecicester he is at his peak he ain't never getting better & I don't see him doing well in the champions league not at spurs anyway.

Does any of that mean lukaku is better than him not really but I bet all defenders prefer playing against Kane & I'll bet lukaku's attributes will translate to goals at a higher level.

Sorry but your posts just screams of bitterness. You do realise Kane has 2 goals in 3 CL games? considering he has only ever played three games in the CL where exactly do you get the idea that he "didn't do well in the CL"?

For the national team, how many top players fail to perform for their national team? I'll give you a clue, there are hundreds. Especially with England, when you put your best striker on corner duties at the Euro's.

It's also ridiculous to say Kane isn't getting any better, unless you can see into the future I'll just have to say that is a load of rubbish. Kane's stats show he is in fact 'getting better' and at 23 has many more years to improve before he hits his peak.

And no the majority of his goals do not come from sheer hard work, they come from unbelievable technique, striking ability, finishing, power, movement and just the fact that he is a natural when it comes to scoring goals. His hard work is just a bonus which sets him apart from fair weather strikers who only put in a shift once in a blue moon.

 

[Simon baker]

He was loved at Millwall for scoring 7 goals in 14 starts and winning their young player of the year award. People who haven't got a clue are always so sure of themselves when they talk about Kane's youth career but before his Leicester loan he was very highly rated.

He had 5 appearances for Norwich all from the bench and then broke his foot and returned to Spurs. At Leicester Nigel Pearson didn't have a clue and put him as a left winger, most of his time was sat alongside Jamie Vardy on the bench because Pearson preferred David Nugent.

There's a reason he was starting in every England age group. Go look up the Jermain Defoe interview where he talks about how good Kane was at finishing while he was at Spurs, said he always knew Kane would become a top class striker.

Wrong

 

[Simon baker]

Sorry but your posts just screams of bitterness. You do realise Kane has 2 goals in 3 CL games? considering he has only ever played three games in the CL where exactly do you get the idea that he "didn't do well in the CL"?

For the national team, how many top players fail to perform for their national team? I'll give you a clue, there are hundreds. Especially with England, when you put your best striker on corner duties at the Euro's.

It's also ridiculous to say Kane isn't getting any better, unless you can see into the future I'll just have to say that is a load of rubbish. Kane's stats show he is in fact 'getting better' and at 23 has many more years to improve before he hits his peak.

And no the majority of his goals do not come from sheer hard work, they come from unbelievable technique, striking ability, finishing, power, movement and just the fact that he is a natural when it comes to scoring goals. His hard work is just a bonus which sets him apart from fair weather strikers who only put in a shift once in a blue moon.

Opinions we see

 

[Primativ]

No . It means that Kane the Spurs striker is more honest than Primativ the Spurs fan

Who says I am a Spurs fan? lol