Current Affairs London Protests

[Papa Shango]

Have they. The people organising the marches and demonstrations here in the U.K. ? Have they distanced themselves from the damage to statues and cenotaphs and flag burning in Bristol and London? I haven't seen any mention of it anywhere if they have

I don't think there are leaders of it as such?

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

Ha Ha Ha.

Brilliant.

Well in @chicoazul

Slayed me when I saw that last night. Got a mention on LBC as well ffs. lol

 

[Papa Shango]

Communism is a pipe dream and has just as much problems as unregulated capitalism.

Thats why this country needs a proper centre left party - someone who understands the positives & negatives of both socialism & capitalism without blindly pretending that one system is the answer to all our problems whilst the other is evil.

Communism as a concept is brilliant.

Humans are knobheads though. Always will be. Anything that results in something being fair to everyone will result in someone screwing the system. They just cant help themselves.

 

[Jebus_lives]

Somebody burnt a Union Jack that I believe may have been taken from a cenotaph.

The issue is, many people in this country associate the BLM with these acts of vandalism. Whoever did them seemingly did so in the name of or in support of BLM.

Somebody somewhere, perhaps an individual but more likely a group of people , have organised these events, and those people have to take responsibility and distance themselves from these events. Do you not agree

Yes I do. But people are going to be willfully uninformed either way and I suspect many associate BLM with these people because they haven't buttered to research or are happy to just cast any action that is negative as BLM.

 

[davek]

The Tories = aboslutley laughing their bollocks off with these protests.

Sitting there with their feet up saying 'job done'.

They get social distancing smashed to get their mates' economy up and running, and they have their second wave alibi in place.

Well done, "revolutionaries".

 

[davek]

Slayed me when I saw that last night. Got a mention on LBC as well ffs. lol

Merited.

 

[Papa Shango]

The Tories = aboslutley laughing their bollocks off with these protests.

Sitting there with their feet up saying 'job done'.

They get social distancing smashed to get their mates' economy up and running, and they have their second wave alibi in place.

Well done, "revolutionaries".

It was going to happen once the pubs open or the football starts again anyway.

 

[davek]

It was going to happen once the pubs open or the football starts again anyway.

...which would have been down to Johnson and his "relaxation" policies.

 

[Papa Shango]

...which would have been down to Johnson and his "relaxation" policies.

Nope, it would have been down to stupid working class proles who cant control themselves.

Their narrative not mine!

The people were always going to get the blame regardless. We all know this.

 

[JimmyJeffers]

Yeah! I loved living in St Paul’s, some great food places there, plus it’s close to Stokes Croft which is my favourite place to go for a few drinks. Sadly most of my mates from there were Arsenal fans, which I’ve decided are definitely the southern equivalent of kopites lol

It’s a very strange one to me, I’m glad that statue of Colston’s not standing anymore, but I’m also glad it’s going into a museum of the city’s history as I think yesterday’s events make it a much more interesting piece of history. But I do think watching the footage was weird, it was like watching the footage of the statue of Saddam being pulled down in Iraq

I like that turbo island. Some nice bars round there. Feels wild

 

[Bishop Thumpety-Thump]

Simply unworkable - unless you believe someone would happily be a GP earning the same as someone working 16 hours a week in Primark. Also try taking money/wealth/land off those who own it without mass murder and violence which wouldn't happen in modern western nations.

Every country that has tried it has failed with just as much inequality, violence and division in their society.

Fair point but an honourable mention has to go to Kerala - democratically elected a communist government that functioned well and saw literacy rates rise to the highest in India.

 

[dead_soft]

Simply unworkable - unless you believe someone would happily be a GP earning the same as someone working 16 hours a week in Primark. Also try taking money/wealth/land off those who own it without mass murder and violence which wouldn't happen in modern western nations.

Every country that has tried it has failed with just as much inequality, violence and division in their society.

That's not communism. And, I'm pretty sure many people will agree that under capitalism 'paid the most' doesn't equal 'works the hardest' or 'deserves it. Your second point is related to how one would transition to a system, not about that system.

Is your final point right? If so, and you dislike communism, why are you fine with keeping the status quo which is apparently just the same?

 

[Charro]

The Tories = aboslutley laughing their bollocks off with these protests.

Sitting there with their feet up saying 'job done'.

They get social distancing smashed to get their mates' economy up and running, and they have their second wave alibi in place.

Well done, "revolutionaries".

There won’t be a second wave.

 

[roydo]

There won’t be a second wave.

Some seem to be relishing one.

 

[ForeverBlue92]

Communism as a concept is brilliant.

Humans are knobheads though. Always will be. Anything that results in something being fair to everyone will result in someone screwing the system. They just cant help themselves.

As a concept its great but ultimately its flawed in practice.

Solving inequality will never happen just based off an economic system - as I mentioned in another thread Asian kids do brilliantly in school yet are a minority in this country - it can be down to a percentage of them coming from secure financial backgrounds (similiar to middle class white kids) but ultimately they place a big emphasis on education in their culture - something working class whites and black parents/families often dont do.

Ultimately If you have no desire to be educated and believe you are stupid its a self fulfilling prophecy and thats why many fall down the cracks in society and struggle later on in life.

Instead of the Left/Right acknowledging that they would rather play people off and tell working class whites its because of foreigners taking their jobs and blacks that its the nasty white man preventing them at every corner.

Ultimately nothing will change until this political system of ours does. At some point people have to draw a line in the sand on whats happened in the past (slavery, empire) otherwise how can people ever hope to move forward? Its like the people who still have a pop at Germany/Germans over the war at some point you have to move on and put the past to bed. Humans are a nasty species and history is littered with death and destruction in pretty much every country and society - why constantly harp back to it? Recognise it and learn from it but dont use it as a weapon against people/in politics.

People like Anthony Joshua & Tommy Robinson are the reasons why this country isnt united - both on respective sides with massive chips on their shoulders.