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[roydo]

To be fair, if it weren’t for Covid I’d likely have moved back to Bristol by now and would’ve been at the protests. I’ve heard they’re going to be renaming Colston hall now too, which is probably for the best.

I saw the mayor basically came out and said the statue was an affront today which wasn’t particularly surprising.

I’ve been proud to see Bristol turning out as it did for BLM, as I still see it as home, just a shame it’s happened during a global pandemic

You the St Pauls lad?

I said yesterday that I dont think the Mayor would have any appetite for it to be replaced, and as you know, many creeds and colours live alongside each other quite happily in town.

I personally was a bit annoyed that any statue is pulled down if I am honest, but that said, the powerful image of it going in the docks going around the world is a proud moment for the City.

 

[Barnfred 55]

For interest

Can't argue with that statement

 

[roydo]

Can't argue with that statement

Nope. An out break of common sense is thankfully, not uncommon in these parts. The St Pauls riots in 1980 are still a reminder to many of how badly stuff can go wrong.

 

[ChesterBlue]

You the St Pauls lad?

I said yesterday that I dont think the Mayor would have any appetite for it to be replaced, and as you know, many creeds and colours live alongside each other quite happily in town.

I personally was a bit annoyed that any statue is pulled down if I am honest, but that said, the powerful image of it going in the docks going around the world is a proud moment for the City.

Yeah! I loved living in St Paul’s, some great food places there, plus it’s close to Stokes Croft which is my favourite place to go for a few drinks. Sadly most of my mates from there were Arsenal fans, which I’ve decided are definitely the southern equivalent of kopites lol

It’s a very strange one to me, I’m glad that statue of Colston’s not standing anymore, but I’m also glad it’s going into a museum of the city’s history as I think yesterday’s events make it a much more interesting piece of history. But I do think watching the footage was weird, it was like watching the footage of the statue of Saddam being pulled down in Iraq

 

[dead_soft]

Communism is a pipe dream and has just as much problems as unregulated capitalism.

Thats why this country needs a proper centre left party - someone who understands the positives & negatives of both socialism & capitalism without blindly pretending that one system is the answer to all our problems whilst the other is evil.

Can we have your working out for this?

 

[mill]

For interest

And that is how you police.

 

[roydo]

Yeah! I loved living in St Paul’s, some great food places there, plus it’s close to Stokes Croft which is my favourite place to go for a few drinks. Sadly most of my mates from there were Arsenal fans, which I’ve decided are definitely the southern equivalent of kopites lol

It’s a very strange one to me, I’m glad that statue of Colston’s not standing anymore, but I’m also glad it’s going into a museum of the city’s history as I think yesterday’s events make it a much more interesting piece of history. But I do think watching the footage was weird, it was like watching the footage of the statue of Saddam being pulled down in Iraq

Yeah, thats a better description, it was weird. There are quite a few slavery based exhibits in town, in The Shed, deffo, so having the statue in one of them would make sense.

My lad has been going to the St Pauls carnival for a few years, and he loves it. Were you there during the WC when tons of houses put the matches on and put their TVs in their gardens and windows so tons could watch!

 

[Jebus_lives]

Have they. The people organising the marches and demonstrations here in the U.K. ? Have they distanced themselves from the damage to statues and cenotaphs and flag burning in Bristol and London? I haven't seen any mention of it anywhere if they have

Are you aware of the structure of BLM?

Because it's not really a centralised organisation so much as a number of dispirate groups uniting under one cause.

There are lots of people distancing themselves from violent protests and looking for peaceful marches.

And I think we need some perspective here, these protests aren't targeting cenotaphs - one kid jumped on it and tried to set fire to a flag while others were telling him to get down.

Statutes - Churchill and a slave trader. One has a very divisive role in British society and the other was a statue of a slave trader who happened to use his money from enslaving one group of people to provide charity to others. The statue will hardly be missed.

Flag burning - I don't know why that's such a big deal? We're people just burning flags?

 

[Jebus_lives]

Nope. An out break of common sense is thankfully, not uncommon in these parts. The St Pauls riots in 1980 are still a reminder to many of how badly stuff can go wrong.

Nice reminder for the 'law and order' folk that not all decisions in policing are about if you should use force or not.

 

[roydo]

Nice reminder for the 'law and order' folk that not all decisions in policing are about if you should use force or not.

He said, in police speak, whats the point? Avon and Somerset police were traumatised by the St Pauls riots, in a good way.

 

[ForeverBlue92]

Can we have your working out for this?

Simply unworkable - unless you believe someone would happily be a GP earning the same as someone working 16 hours a week in Primark. Also try taking money/wealth/land off those who own it without mass murder and violence which wouldn't happen in modern western nations.

Every country that has tried it has failed with just as much inequality, violence and division in their society.

 

[davek]

Never a good time to protest against racsism it will upset the chattering keyboard classes.



Good to know some baby boomers on the right side of the fight...

"John McAllister, 71, tore down black bin bags used to hide the Colston statue to denounce it in front of fellow protesters"

Protesters pull down statue of slave trader and push it into harbour

Superb

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And us younger ones...

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You're attempting to make this into a right versus left schism. It's not. It's a responsible versus stupid schism.

Anyone doing anything to maximize the deadliness of a second wave is on the wrong side of the road here.

 

[ChesterBlue]

Yeah, thats a better description, it was weird. There are quite a few slavery based exhibits in town, in The Shed, deffo, so having the statue in one of them would make sense.

My lad has been going to the St Pauls carnival for a few years, and he loves it. Were you there during the WC when tons of houses put the matches on and put their TVs in their gardens and windows so tons could watch!

Yeah, that would definitely be more appropriate I think. It always surprised me that it was still there and that Colston hall was called Colston hall given how diverse and accepting the city is.

Sadly I wasn’t, I moved to Liverpool in 2016 for work, though I did visit for the England vs Panama game! Carnival is always really good there to be fair, I always found it odd how loads of people(admittedly, people not from the city) had a downer on Paul’s still from the 80’s, as I thought it was a great area to live generally, certainly felt safer than I did living on Fleet Street in Liverpool at night there

 

[Jebus_lives]

He said, in police speak, whats the point? Avon and Somerset police were traumatised by the St Pauls riots, in a good way.

Yes and 'it would create further problems'. Sensible decision I think.

 

[roydo]

Yeah, that would definitely be more appropriate I think. It always surprised me that it was still there and that Colston hall was called Colston hall given how diverse and accepting the city is.

Sadly I wasn’t, I moved to Liverpool in 2016 for work, though I did visit for the England vs Panama game! Carnival is always really good there to be fair, I always found it odd how loads of people(admittedly, people not from the city) had a downer on Paul’s still from the 80’s, as I thought it was a great area to live generally, certainly felt safer than I did living on Fleet Street in Liverpool at night there

I used to knock about with a lad who lived in Easton, and drinking there and St Pauls always felt safer than some places in Southmead. Go figure eh?