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[Jebus_lives]

And what I'm saying is that you are more likely to get that from dignity and forgiveness than you are from violence and destruction

It usually follows from redress through justice. Which is largely uncommon when dealing with deaths caused by police.

 

[Harryflashman]

Yea I get that, but people's stance of symbolism has changed within a matter of hours here.

People who moaned about the statute being taken down moaned about public funds, erasing history, democracy and didn't consider the symbolism of taking down a slave master are now moaning about the symbolic meaning of the flag.

I am not talking about the wider context.

I didn’t moan about the statue by the way

 

[Jebus_lives]

As are you

Not sure I am. But there you go

 

[Blue 1]

Having previously lived in St Paul’s for 3 years, and as someone who’s planning to move back post covid, I can guarantee that the majority of public opinion in Bristol will be “good riddance to that statue” further to that there have been numerous calls for Colston Hall to be renamed.

Colston Hall is being renamed.

 

[dead_soft]

And what I'm saying is that you are more likely to get that from dignity and forgiveness than you are from violence and destruction

Dignity, respect, peaceful are all things that the establishment tries to promote in a protest.
Violence from the state will be met with violence from the people

 

[coollino]

I didn’t moan about the statue by the way

It wasn't about anyone in particular.

 

[Barnfred 55]

BJ needs to be more clear in the tweet. The way he’s written it makes it sound like if these protests happened socially distanced they’d be okay but they’re illegal regardless of whether people are 2m apart.

I've seen 3 different ministers say over the weekend what was acceptable under social distancing. There may have been more. They were repeated throughout the day on the news. Yes Johnson could have been more precise in his wording, but I believe the OP knew what he meant.

 

[ChesterBlue]

Colston Hall is being renamed.

Finally, should’ve happened ages ago. There was nigh on a yearly petition in Bristol for it to be changed

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

Not really, just a fact. It was the First World War that was the game-changer. More people were turned off the idea due to suffragettes, even people who had sympathy for the idea.

The suffragists were a more constructive force.

Many a movement that seeks full equal equity has the ability to have violence attached, be that official or unofficial. History is absolutely littered examples.

 

[Nymzee]

I've seen 3 different ministers say over the weekend what was acceptable under social distancing. There may have been more. They were repeated throughout the day on the news. Yes Johnson could have been more precise in his wording, but I believe the OP knew what he meant.

But not everyone reading that will automatically decipher the truth behind the error though, will they? It's dangerous to assume everyone has a brain.

 

[PhilM]

Community service is still a sentence so there is no blind eye?

I would argue that small criminal damage does not warrant a prison sentence and something much more productive, yes.

It will be interesting if they go for criminal damage (other than by fire) or arson (criminal damage by fire). The latter is a serious offence.

 

[Jebus_lives]

I've seen 3 different ministers say over the weekend what was acceptable under social distancing. There may have been more. They were repeated throughout the day on the news. Yes Johnson could have been more precise in his wording, but I believe the OP knew what he meant.

And we're back to 'interpret what the PM thinks in lieu of actual substance'

 

[coollino]

It will be interesting if they go for criminal damage (other than by fire) or arson (criminal damage by fire). The latter is a serious offence.

It's also done by monatry value though so they would probably get more through criminal damage. The damage by fire is very little.

 

[Harryflashman]

It's also done by monatry value though so they would probably get more through criminal damage. The damage by fire is very little.

do you reckon ? The sentencing guidelines for arson are pretty harsh and can include ‘psychological’ damage. I suspect he’d get more under that if they went down that route . No idea if they would mind

 

[Barnfred 55]

Well BLM have done that to be fair. They are a protest against the killing of unarmed black people in in America. They're not really the enemy here and need to be brought into the fold far more to help dilute the anger that exists around this subject.

I'm talking about what has gone on here in the U.K mate. I don't expect BLM in the US to say anything but I do expect the organisers here to condemn the violence and vandalism. I haven't seen this mornings news but if they have done well great.

Staying silent is not an option, they have to distance themselves if they want the continued support of those who do condemn the violence