Current Affairs London Protests

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Exactly right. I don't however think the one person burning the flag in it is indicative of the wider protestors.
Neither do I, I’m purely talking about the defacing of war monuments/memorials with my posts (not space traders, politicians, sportsmen etc.). I’d rather they were burning a Liverpool shirt but I’m no massive patriot, countries are just lines in the sand and I’m not arsed about a bloke burning a flag.
 
Members of absolutely every class have been killed in wars I recommend you visit the chapel at the Royal Military Academy Sandhurst and read the thousands of names on the walls there if you don’t believe me. War affects absolutely everybody and the deaths of these people should not be looked on with any political or “bigger picture” spectacles on, the fact is these people laid down their lives.

I am not pushing any political agenda. I am not mentioning anything about the circumstances around these protests or whatever is going on in this ridiculous world right now. I am simply saying these monuments stand as a testament to the dead, they shouldn’t hold any hidden meaning and they are a way that we as a species remember these souls and for that reason they shouldn’t be defaced. May I ask why you take umbrage to this?

I don't think it's worth the argument as I think we mainly agree - I don't disagree with all war memorials or the cenotaph. My main issue is that these small bits of graffiti or burning of a flag will be blown out of all proportion when I don't really think they are that much of an issue or will cause any lasting problems.
 
They are worthless if all they are are pieces of marble or stone with names on them. If they are part of a refusal to not repeat the mistakes and to not allow the class system use the working class as fodder for their wars, it has a worth.

Is there something seriously up with you??

Literally spitting in the faces of men who gave their lives so little pricks could stand there and deface the cenotaph.
 
It's not about if you have 'little chance' it's about if you have a chance at all - which you shouldn't. And the point is not about equivalence of deaths by police (there would definitely be more if the UK police were armed), it's about the way policing in the UK targets and perceives different races and the possibility of a climate that will allow what we see in the US to happen here.

In recent memory we have had entire police forces declared institutionally racist and, in addressing public safety, where police have clearly overreached their power and used unnecessary force against people of all colours, while there has been a woeful lack of accountability through the justice system.

There are parallels even from recent times with the killing of George Floyd https://www.channel4.com/news/hearing-told-police-failed-in-duty-of-care-to-man-who-died

But it doesn't happen here:

I refuse to draw the same anger about the destruction of property (which not many generations ago you were if you were black) or the burning of a flag, as that of a life. And as for dishonouring the cenotaph, what is the point in fighting Facism and intolerance if you are willing to accept it decades on?
Bit ironic , fighting facism by burning things and pulling down symbols of a system you dont agree with, and using mob force to destabilise the country on the streets.
remind you of anything ?
 
I think my posts may have been misinterpreted as some kind of right wing EDL, nationalist, bulldog, tattooed, dresses as a crusader to go to England games nutter which I certainly did not intend (and am not!) so I’m tagging @dead_soft too.

The post above sums up what I’m trying to say.
Didn't take it that way and sorry if it seemed I did, was just disagreeing about the main point of them I think.
 
We are still in lockdown. Not sure what you're on.
You can be outside if you want, just not stay overnight somewhere:
Health Protection (Coronavirus, Restrictions) (England) Regulations 2020 reg 6(2), as substituted by the Health Protection (Coronavirus, Restrictions) (England) (Amendment) (No. 3) Regulations 2020 reg 2(6).

And you can have an outdoor gathering of up to 6 people - socially distanced of course:
Health Protection (Coronavirus, Restrictions) (England) Regulations 2020 reg 7(1) as substituted by the Health Protection (Coronavirus, Restrictions) (England) (Amendment) (No. 3) Regulations 2020 reg 2(7).

Hope that helps. Now take to the streets!
 
I don't think it's worth the argument as I think we mainly agree - I don't disagree with all war memorials or the cenotaph. My main issue is that these small bits of graffiti or burning of a flag will be blown out of all proportion when I don't really think they are that much of an issue or will cause any lasting problems.
The fact we are talking about them rather than the subject the march was about shows what a disservice they are doing to the cause they are supposed to represent.
 
The fact we are talking about them rather than the subject the march was about shows what a disservice they are doing to the cause they are supposed to represent.

Nah, the protests are still major news despite what four or five Everton fans discuss
 
Bit ironic , fighting facism by burning things and pulling down symbols of a system you dont agree with, and using mob force to destabilise the country on the streets.
remind you of anything ?
Protesting isn't an exclusively fascist strategy so it isn't ironic. As for "mob force", the vast majority of the tens of thousands of people protesting over the past 2 days in the UK have been peaceful and respectful and have been looking for a farer, more equal system. Again, not fascist.

Maybe focus on the important parts of the protests rather than a tiny minority who are causing problems.
 
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