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Why are people out there protesting about Universal Credit that’s a bigger killer in this country than police brutality and it doesn’t discriminate.

BLM and they have the right to protest but as America it seems a lot of middle class white folk who have been conditioned through the education system can’t get their vegan lattes and thought they would have a tear up.

That statue shouldnt have been there but it’s been there for years, yet some “woke” kids have decided to pull it down now.

Churchill apart from his leadership during WW2 wasn’t a good person imo but what is defacing his statue going to achieve?

I see Stalin is trending yet some of these Antifa goons celebrate him and the flag of the Soviet Union, a communist party that carried on where Hitler left off, another true evil.

The faux wokeness is tiresome.

I am all for protesting and standing up for what is right and it’s what our city does and has always has done but some of this has gone too far now.
 
dead_soft said:
That isn't true though. The memorials are fairly worthless on their own, and are certainly not the only way to show that these people didn't die in vain - it's the move towards equality and freedom that would do that more.
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The memorials to millions of people are not worthless what an utterly abhorrent thing to say. The fact is most of the wars these people died in were not about equality and freedom at all and to prevent them dying in vain you must have something standing as a monument to them.

I can promise you that when you go into combat the you are certainly not thinking of equality or freedom and these monuments stand totally separate to any other statue, commemoration or anything for that exact reason. They should be respected as the names and souls for every poor wretch who’s ever laid down their life in the futility of war should be.
 
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Why are people out there protesting about Universal Credit that’s a bigger killer in this country than police brutality and it doesn’t discriminate.

BLM and they have the right to protest but as America it seems a lot of middle class white folk who have been conditioned through the education system can’t get their vegan lattes and thought they would have a tear up.

That statue shouldnt have been there but it’s been there for years, yet some “woke” kids have decided to pull it down now.

Churchill apart from his leadership during WW2 wasn’t a good person imo but what is defacing his statue going to achieve?

I see Stalin is trending yet some of these Antifa goons celebrate him and the flag of the Soviet Union, a communist party that carried on where Hitler left off, another true evil.

The faux wokeness is tiresome.

I am all for protesting and standing up for what is right and it’s what our city does and has always has done but some of this has gone too far now.
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Universal Credit is a means of keeping the poor in their place - the elite would rather turn poor whites and blacks against one another.

Its mind boggling how people are hoodwinked by the left/right elite who turn people against one another than have them challenge the real issues of inequality within society.

That black kid burning the British Flag is a victim of left wing brainwashing as much as some out of work white kid at an EDL rally is of far right brainwashing.

I truly pray for a centrist movement to take off in the future - get people away from the toxic left/right that seeks to divide based on their own ideology.
 
killenefc said:
The memorials to millions of people are not worthless what an utterly abhorrent thing to say. The fact is most of the wars these people died in were not about equality and freedom at all and to prevent them dying in vain you must have something standing as a monument to them.

I can promise you that when you go into combat the you are certainly not thinking of equality or freedom and these monuments stand totally separate to any other statue, commemoration or anything for that exact reason. They should be respected as the names and souls for every poor wretch who’s ever laid down their life in the futility of war should be.
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I didn't say they were worthless and it may have been worth reading before getting outraged.

War is futile, but if all there is is a monument aftermaths then the memorials are pretty worthless.
 
dead_soft said:
I didn't say they were worthless and it may have been worth reading before getting outraged.

War is futile, but if all there is is a monument aftermaths then the memorials are pretty worthless.
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Im not at any point saying there shouldn’t be more to it than just a monument but the fact is the monument physically stands there for all those lives and absolutely should be shown the upmost respect.
 
killenefc said:
Im not at any point saying there shouldn’t be more to it than just a monument but the fact is the monument physically stands there for all those lives and absolutely should be shown the upmost respect.
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'on their own' is quite an important bit to miss out of that comment
 
dead_soft said:
That isn't true though. The memorials are fairly worthless on their own, and are certainly not the only way to show that these people didn't die in vain - it's the move towards equality and freedom that would do that more.
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They arent worthless. They are to remember people who lost their lives. Normal, decent people who had nothing to do with the decisions which started wars.

They should not be vandalised and I find it totally wrong.
 
I watched a programme recently called Britain's darkest taboos and it was about an Asian lad in Rotherham who murdered his white girlfriend and dumped her body in a canal. I don't think there was any protests surrounding her horrific death. Obviously her life doesn't matter.
 
killenefc said:
Care to enlighten me?
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They are worthless if all they are are pieces of marble or stone with names on them. If they are part of a refusal to not repeat the mistakes and to not allow the class system use the working class as fodder for their wars, it has a worth.
 
killenefc said:
Im not at any point saying there shouldn’t be more to it than just a monument but the fact is the monument physically stands there for all those lives and absolutely should be shown the upmost respect.
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Exactly right. I don't however think the one person burning the flag in it is indicative of the wider protestors.
 
dead_soft said:
They are worthless if all they are are pieces of marble or stone with names on them. If they are part of a refusal to not repeat the mistakes and to not allow the class system use the working class as fodder for their wars, it has a worth.
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Members of absolutely every class have been killed in wars I recommend you visit the chapel at the Royal Military Academy Sandhurst and read the thousands of names on the walls there if you don’t believe me. War affects absolutely everybody and the deaths of these people should not be looked on with any political or “bigger picture” spectacles on, the fact is these people laid down their lives.

I am not pushing any political agenda. I am not mentioning anything about the circumstances around these protests or whatever is going on in this ridiculous world right now. I am simply saying these monuments stand as a testament to the dead, they shouldn’t hold any hidden meaning and they are a way that we as a species remember these souls and for that reason they shouldn’t be defaced. May I ask why you take umbrage to this?
 
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