Current Affairs London Protests

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Genuinely, I'm being objective here but...

What's the real difference between wanting to support a group exclusively because of their race, colour or creed and boycotting because of the same criteria?

because this is about doing whatever you can to help switch the power dynamic. Buying from businesses owned by people who have had less representation and less equality of opportunity is a way to attempt to begin to redress the power balance. It’s a positive act not a negative act.

I also think it might be worth trying to find the whole statement rather than just the selective selection by a failed Far right political candidate
 
This is veering close to 'keep them down before they rise up'

Im happy for those who are exploited (of all colours) to rise up against the elite- but I dont want a minority of bigoted people being able to rise up with them but with their anti white / whatever views defended and accepted as being fine.

We wouldn't accept or want exploited working/lower class far right racist supporters of the BNP to say take control in this country so why do some want a bloke who holds racist views to rise up just because he happens to be black/asian whatever?

You either oppose racism or you defend it - if you oppose it then call it out whenever you see it and from whoever is spouting it - dont just brush it off because its aimed at a white person.
 
because this is about doing whatever you can to help switch the power dynamic. Buying from businesses owned by people who have had less representation and less equality of opportunity is a way to attempt to begin to redress the power balance. It’s a positive act not a negative act.

I also think it might be worth trying to find the whole statement rather than just the selective selection by a failed Far right political candidate
Like I said, I have no issue with people choosing to shop in their local community or for those who they feel have less representation. That's a good cause.

What I do have concern about is telling people to abstain from shopping somewhere because of the race of the owner, regardless of the legitimacy of the cause.

Before people mention the complex nature of white privilege which I accept, I would and do feel exactly the same if the parameters were changed for example...

Suggesting people abstain from a business merely because they're male or female, white or black, a Christian or a Muslim or a Jew... well it's counter-productive.

In reality, he should have stopped after mentioning the ideal of supporting your own brethren because that holds some legitimacy, and is a positive cause.

Also, I don't get switching the power dynamic? Do you not mean removing the power dynamic or creating an equal balance between all men and women?
 
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Jesus. Hope they're ok. Any idea as to why they were galloping like that?

Someone threw a bike at the horse. The rider must have been severely hurt yet ‘protesters’ we’re still throwing bottles and stuff even when it was obvious someone was seriously hurt. I sincerely hope the police can track down and prosecute those throwing the bikes and bottles. March by all means but innocent people are getting hurt because of this.....
 
Someone threw a bike at the horse. The rider must have been severely hurt yet ‘protesters’ we’re still throwing bottles and stuff even when it was obvious someone was seriously hurt. I sincerely hope the police can track down and prosecute those throwing the bikes and bottles. March by all means but innocent people are getting hurt because of this.....
I'm sure they will. It's only when they have to be accountable for their own actions the police tend to capitulate.
 
because this is about doing whatever you can to help switch the power dynamic. Buying from businesses owned by people who have had less representation and less equality of opportunity is a way to attempt to begin to redress the power balance. It’s a positive act not a negative act.

I also think it might be worth trying to find the whole statement rather than just the selective selection by a failed Far right political candidate


I’m not being funny but around 99% of this forum (whether white or black) couldn’t start a business to compete multinational organisations. It’s nothing to do with skin colour, it’s identitying a massive niche market that can be exploited.

now if you want people to support local shops that’s perfectly fine as long as it’s not based on race. I get some things I need from my local newsagents (owned by lovely a fella from Yemen) and I got other things from a bakery owned by a white British guy. Are you suggesting I boycott the British fella because he’s white??
 
No.

The horse bolted, the rider wasn’t in control because scum had been throwing objects at the animal.

Ok it's hard to see that from the video. From my experience of protests and football, its not uncommon for police to charge horses into people, on most occasions to intimidate and disperse people. Unfortunately in this instance he rode is straight into a traffic light, so an unfortunate accident really.
 
I’m not being funny but around 99% of this forum (whether white or black) couldn’t start a business to compete multinational organisations. It’s nothing to do with skin colour, it’s identitying a massive niche market that can be exploited.

now if you want people to support local shops that’s perfectly fine as long as it’s not based on race. I get some things I need from my local newsagents (owned by lovely a fella from Yemen) and I got other things from a bakery owned by a white British guy. Are you suggesting I boycott the British fella because he’s white??

The suggestion is surely you consider where you want to spend your money as a consumer?
 
Ok it's hard to see that from the video. From my experience of protests and football, its not uncommon for police to charge horses into people, on most occasions to intimidate and disperse people. Unfortunately in this instance he rode is straight into a traffic light, so an unfortunate accident really.
When you consider the speed of the movement compared to the line and that police horses are trained to at most canter, not gallop, I would say it's likely it bolted.
 
When you consider the speed of the movement compared to the line and that police horses are trained to canter, not gallop, I would say it's more likely it bolted.

Yes thats probably fair. I have seen many horses ride at that speed on protests though. I mean from the video the crowd it was surging into looked relatively peaceful, so not sure why they were even using horses? It's an unfortunate accident and obviously I hope both the officer is ok, and that the horse wasn't hit with any objects. I also think police have to think carefully about charging horses into protesters who for the most part are peaceful.
 
By shifting your buying power to those who have been less represented?? I don’t think that is the suggestion.

Well in Joshua's case, to trying to keep money in their own community, rather than see money sucked out of their communities thus meaning there is a lack of jobs and opportunities for black people. I don't necessarily agree with Joshua, but what he says seems logical enough.
 
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