Leeds, Leicester and the other small clubs.

[Goodisongang]

Leicester had some players who were better but I'm not convinced either of those teams had better squads than us

If say Leicester definitely did tbf

Leeds are were crap tho

 

[Mrbluenose]

If we end up facing a bill for hundreds of millions in compo then it's bankruptcy and administration, plain and simple. Thats the only way to get out of paying.

Now, it shouldn't come to that, but then we shouldn't have been docked 10 points either, so who knows how crazy this will get.

 

[gixerk6]

My worry is that the commission that gave us the points will be deciding if these teams get compensation and in that report they stated there was a case for them getting compensation from us. So to me they have already made their mind up on the fact. They will just work out who and how much we owe some or all of them thst are claiming. There should be a whole new panel set up for this not one that already thinks we owe them.

 

[d0rk]

This compensation thing is a farce.
How can they decide on sporting advantage?
If they conjure one up, how do they quantify the level of payment.?
There's nothing concrete to go on, it's all theoretical and abstract.

Actually, the way this type of "loss of chance" thing is quantified is well established. Not arguing it's right or wrong, just that it is done. Example;

Let's say relegation costs a club £100M, for arguments sake. The panel might take a percentage "loss of chance" e.g. Everton breaching spending rules made Burnley 20% more likely to be relegated = therefore, Burnley would be due £20M in compensation (being 20% of £100M).

These numbers are totally made up before someone jumps down my throat, but that is probably the line of process/thinking they would follow.

 

[Toffeelover]

That was an article from last night so might be over 24 hours old since written.

They spoke to a few different sports lawyers and it would be a difficult case to call and the figures of 100 million are far fetched and would expect compensation to be much lower ( 10 million was one estimate )

"F" to that, tell them to go sling themselves. Just chasing increasing their bank account.

 

[Toffeelover]

My worry is that the commission that gave us the points will be deciding if these teams get compensation and in that report they stated there was a case for them getting compensation from us. So to me they have already made their mind up on the fact. They will just work out who and how much we owe some or all of them thst are claiming. There should be a whole new panel set up for this not one that already thinks we owe them.

So how do they quantify it ?

 

[HalfTimeSayers]

Claims the 3 clubs are coming together to determine a case are rediculous.

If we are somehow adjudged to be the cause of Burnley’s relegation instead of us and ordered to give them £million, we can’t possibly be the cause of Leicesters relegation as we wouldn’t have been in the PL last season! They will have to argue amongst themselves as to which season we should have gone down. Can’t be relegated from the PL 3 seasons in a row.

Sort of hope we have to give Burnley a few million after the January window just so the other clubs have completely wasted money on legals.

 

[hallamblue]

If say Leicester definitely did tbf

Leeds are were crap tho

We've been linked with most of their squad so they must be better than what we have!

 

[Goodisongang]

We've been linked with most of their squad so they must be better than what we have!

Had a couple of decent wingers and Rodrigo was good.

Rest of the team ( defence ) was terrible

 

[Blue Willy]

So how do they quantify it ?

Well if last week is anything to go by, they will guess. Something along the lines of “we at the PL have looked at all the evidence and Everton must pay £x million to Leicester, Leeds, Burnley. Etc… or they will be deducted 12 points”. Potentially forcing 777 away, and Moshiri back until he can dump us on someone else or more likely put is into administration (and additional points).

If a similar claim comes up from any other team, especially the scum 6, they will just make something else up from scratch.

We need the government to step in, led by an ex pro (Gary Neville?) to help form a squeaky cleqn, truly indepent regulator, with government backing, which oversees the entire footballing system from PL to grass roots - and not jobs/bungs for the boys.

 

[Tony’s Carp]

Actually, the way this type of "loss of chance" thing is quantified is well established. Not arguing it's right or wrong, just that it is done. Example;

Let's say relegation costs a club £100M, for arguments sake. The panel might take a percentage "loss of chance" e.g. Everton breaching spending rules made Burnley 20% more likely to be relegated = therefore, Burnley would be due £20M in compensation (being 20% of £100M).

These numbers are totally made up before someone jumps down my throat, but that is probably the line of process/thinking they would follow.

Know you are just giving sample numbers but if they do go down the compensation route (and I suspect it will only be Burnley who can make any valid claim) it wouldn’t surprise me if they find a construction that makes the compensation awarded around the 20m mark ie the amount of our overspend.

Even that thought should surely on balance be accompanied by a reduction in the points fine. Burnley, as a club in the relegation battle, are being compensated for our sporting advantage by our sporting disadvantage this season so any significant financial compensation on top of the points penalty is arguably double compensation.

 

[Toffeelover]

Well if last week is anything to go by, they will guess. Something along the lines of “we at the PL have looked at all the evidence and Everton must pay £x million to Leicester, Leeds, Burnley. Etc… or they will be deducted 12 points”. Potentially forcing 777 away, and Moshiri back until he can dump us on someone else or more likely put is into administration (and additional points).

If a similar claim comes up from any other team, especially the scum 6, they will just make something else up from scratch.

We need the government to step in, led by an ex pro (Gary Neville?) to help form a squeaky cleqn, truly indepent regulator, with government backing, which oversees the entire footballing system from PL to grass roots - and not jobs/bungs for the boys.

And out of existence.

 

[gixerk6]

So how do they quantify it ?

I’m sure they will find an unfair way

 

[MIKE85]

I'm a bit confused, but where are they getting the £100m figure from?

 

[lieneverton]

I'm a bit confused, but where are they getting the £100m figure from?

By literally making up their own assumptions - it's a nonsense "article" made up for some entertainment. It's plucked from the same thin air as the number 10 was.