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Don't care about historical accuracy mert it's just a decent watch.

300 is a class film and isn't remotely historically accurate.

300 even as a cartoon with a twenty foot high gold androgynous Xerxes didn’t take as much liberties with the source material as that did, though.

Whole swathes of history twisted, squeezed and often completely made up just to increase the appeal of Henry V to a modern audience, even though we should be more familiar with the violence of religious zealots than anyone. It was just awful.
 
300 even as a cartoon with a twenty foot high gold androgynous Xerxes didn’t take as much liberties with the source material as that did, though.

Whole swathes of history twisted, squeezed and often completely made up just to increase the appeal of Henry V to a modern audience, even though we should be more familiar with the violence of religious zealots than anyone. It was just awful.

If it wasn't based on a true event would you call it an awful film?
 
The book is brilliant as you`re inside his head as his hatred and obsession with " dirty Leeds " builds.

Read the book as well, was very good, one of the interesting bits in it was about Billy Bremner, ( portrayed as a horrible, two faced little git by Stephen Graham) was on the verge of signing for Everton, but fell through the last minute. A rather interesting aside, if signed, who would have been dropped, if any ? Kendall, or Harvey ? Surely not Ball.
Showed Clough up as an insecure bully in the film, heavily reliant on the brilliant right hand man, chief scout, bottle washer Peter Taylor. Bremner and Giles were the chief perpetrators against Clough, but Clough brought a lot of it on himself. Funny watching Bremner a right snide, every time you saw him, he had a ciggy in his mouth.

Would have loved to have seen more of Revie, Gary Sprake is still not welcome at Leeds, after breaking ranks, about the dirty dealings at the time, behind the scenes at Leeds.
Alleged, bribes to opposing players by club captain Bremner, instigated by Revie. Damning evidence for me was Revie, resigning the England job and sodding off to Saudi Arabia, before any investigation could properly be taken. Sadly the film, mentioned, Liverpool, Man United but not Everton, (it was set the late sixties / seventies), but 69/70, we were the rightful, school of science champions and were not even mentioned in the film. Sorry for the essay, but enjoyed both film and book and the excellent performance of Michael Sheen.
 
If it wasn't based on a true event would you call it an awful film?

Probably not, though to take the “history“ out of that would have entirely removed the reason for the films existence.

If films pretend to be based on true events then they should at least use those events in the plot, and not entirely change them to make points that are the opposite of what happened. Take his brother Thomas for example, who in the film is killed by nameless Welsh off-screen, a casualty of his fathers needless wars. Thomas was actually the casualty of the war Henry V started (needlessly), killed by Scots fighting with the French.

The “plot” of Grey and Cambridge as well was daft in the film and really misleading; in reality Cambridge actually told Henry what was being planned and the King butchered Grey and Scrope (who may actually have been innocent), then seized their lands and properties to fund the war.

It was the idea that he was mugged into starting the war that was the worst bit though.
 
Probably not, though to take the “history“ out of that would have entirely removed the reason for the films existence.

If films pretend to be based on true events then they should at least use those events in the plot, and not entirely change them to make points that are the opposite of what happened. Take his brother Thomas for example, who in the film is killed by nameless Welsh off-screen, a casualty of his fathers needless wars. Thomas was actually the casualty of the war Henry V started (needlessly), killed by Scots fighting with the French.

The “plot” of Grey and Cambridge as well was daft in the film and really misleading; in reality Cambridge actually told Henry what was being planned and the King butchered Grey and Scrope (who may actually have been innocent), then seized their lands and properties to fund the war.

It was the idea that he was mugged into starting the war that was the worst bit though.

Wait, what, why can't you have a fictional historical drama film?
 

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