Current Affairs Labour and Anti Semitism.......

[peteblue]

Lol if you read them you might have an opinion that’s yours and not that of a daily mail hack.

I told you my opinion, He has mismanaged the whole affair.....I’m not interested in any of his words contained in an appendix, it is just gross political stupidity on his part, and sensibly thrown out......

 

[Steve0]

I told you my opinion, He has mismanaged the whole affair.....I’m not interested in any of his words contained in an appendix, it is just gross political stupidity on his part, and sensibly thrown out......

That’s a mess. You think it was sensibly thrown out but you don’t know what it said. But you do know it was gross political stupidity.

All this stupidity and mismanagement but they’re still leading in the polls. Tories dying everyday and corbynites turning 18 every day....

 

[peteblue]

Dear me, I hope this is not true...It is now rumoured that Labour have a dossier containing numerous cases of anti-semitism that should have been reported to the police, but that they didn’t...I’m sure someone has just made this up, surely.....

 

[peteblue]

That’s a mess. You think it was sensibly thrown out but you don’t know what it said. But you do know it was gross political stupidity.

All this stupidity and mismanagement but they’re still leading in the polls. Tories dying everyday and corbynites turning 18 every day....

You are like Corbyn and completely missing the point. All he had to do was adopt the generally agreed statement and move on. But he didn’t, he can’t help himself, he had to add something else. The man is a genius in the eyes of his supporters, and a political fool in the eyes of everyone else......

 

[Steve0]

You are like Corbyn and completely missing the point. All he had to do was adopt the generally agreed statement and move on. But he didn’t, he can’t help himself, he had to add something else. The man is a genius in the eyes of his supporters, and a political fool in the eyes of everyone else......

There wasn’t a point to miss.

 

[peteblue]

There wasn’t a point to miss.

And there in just six words is the problem with Labour.....

 

[larrygobfiend]

Dear me, I hope this is not true...It is now rumoured that Labour have a dossier containing numerous cases of anti-semitism that should have been reported to the police, but that they didn’t...I’m sure someone has just made this up, surely.....

You desperately hope it's true.

 

[Brendan Janus]

Dear me, I hope this is not true...It is now rumoured that Labour have a dossier containing numerous cases of anti-semitism that should have been reported to the police, but that they didn’t...I’m sure someone has just made this up, surely.....

Yeh, just a prank played by John Major's publicist !

 

[peteblue]

You desperately hope it's true.

But of course, I understand British irony.........

 

[Steve0]

And there in just six words is the problem with Labour.....

Pete you’re confused. Stop relying on the Daily Mail to tell you what to think.

 

[Number_25]

Believing and relaying nonfactual stories in the "news"papers to own the libs.

 

[Number_25]

The religious zeal with which Dave talks is frankly terrifying. Purges, pestilence etc. Bit old testament isn't it?

The Labour Party was formed on the basis of representing the working class in Parliament. If those elected to do that job fail to do so in a manner which is acceptable to local party members, then the people should be provided the means of removing said person.

We live in a democracy, it's not some kind of cynical plot.

 

[hullefc]

Dear me, I hope this is not true...It is now rumoured that Labour have a dossier containing numerous cases of anti-semitism that should have been reported to the police, but that they didn’t...I’m sure someone has just made this up, surely.....

Is this in the 'dodgy dossier'? "He (Frank Fields) attacked Lord Joseph, one of Margaret Thatcher's favourite ministers, for an ill- advised speech on birth control among the poor, calling him 'a leading member of the Jewish community applying Nazi attitudes towards the poor'. Field's courage and obduracy were both noted. 1993 Independent interview. Or have they twisted it and claimed Corbyn said it?

 

[hullefc]

He's right in that the deselection of the right wing Labour MPs is the only way forward for the LP as an organisation. (I welcome that. As much as I;d like to see the LP win the next election, the most important thing for me is to see the party cleansed of the Blairites and regain its mantle as a party of democratic socialism with strong influence from its working class base in the TUs).

However, he's wrong about the anti-semitism stuff: it will work in Corbyn's favour in the end if they continue to push this...it will be his detractors who will be cast as the bullies and then the jig is really up for them. If you watched Newsnight last night you'd have seen a veteran and revered LP member Alf Dubs (who just so happens to be a Holocaust survivor himself) state that there's nowhere to go for this story now.

In one way, this is a good place to be in: gloves off and a fight to the bitter end.

But people are caught in the "now" a little bit too much. This news cycle ends soon. The only game in town from now until the next election is Brexit, the awful deal and the bloody Tory civil war. Let the good times roll.

Dubs interview:

Negative, negative and even more negative publicity hoping mud sticks amongst those waverers, often in marginals, who have had their fill of May's incompetence. Keep shouting about Corbyn's 'anti semitism' by the Blairites hoping it will damage the chances of a Corbyn led Labour party getting a majority at the next election. Your right that most people suffering the consequences of Tory austerity are sick of this right wing Labourite diatribe against Corbyn but the continued attacks are not for their 'benefit'. Muddy the waters.

The negativity/lies will continue with this Skripal false flag 'Putin friends are the suspects'. This is coming out today so as to keep the pressure on Corbyn about 'national defence' and 'nuclear weapons' and why he 'wont spend more on defence'. As well as adding 'evidence' so as to get the Counter Terrorism and Border Security Bill through parliament so they can impose a hard border on the island of Ireland. By placing a hard border due to 'state security concerns' is the only way the UK can leave the EU. But at the moment are being stymied by the Good Friday Agreement and the Northern Ireland Act 1989.

Edit. IMO this is like 1997 all over again and the question is not will the Labour party win the election but what majority will they get. That will depend on deselecting enough of those those Blairites so they don't keep poisoning the Labour party.

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

It annoys me, cos a strong Labour party is a force for good, generally. But the generational hijacks of it just do my nut.

A new group of idiots arrive on a regular basis before they learn.....

Excuse me if I interrupt this sophist political get together, of seen it all before, you both wilfully neglect there are no social housing to sell off neither is there any utilities to privatise this time round.. The best that was come up with was privatising peoples housing asset to pay for their care, it was not very popular, suppose there was deregulation around pensions by Cameron and Osbourne however, that has led to swindling, woops mean a raft of miss selling.

You are like Corbyn and completely missing the point. All he had to do was adopt the generally agreed statement and move on.

Generally adopted by 6 countries, it’s not a ringing endorsement as often suggested.