peteblue
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You take my point though. The hardened voters, left or right, will vote left or right. Those that decide who will be PM sit in the middle and change their votes as they see fit, or as you suggest are influenced.....
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You take my point though. The hardened voters, left or right, will vote left or right. Those that decide who will be PM sit in the middle and change their votes as they see fit, or as you suggest are influenced.....
Spot on, but of course it works another way - the Tory vote can also be alienated by the Tories and be pushed to the other side, rather than won by Labour - especially given how abject the Tories are at the moment. And vice versa of course.
It's often seemingly forgotten that May threatened the triple lock on pensions on the eve of the election. The Tories bombed in the polls immediately after that as a portion of the elderly Tory vote who weren't "Tory no matter what" gave May a kicking, thinking the result of a Tory win was a given regardless - a massive factor behind how close it was in the end.
Would the Tories make that same mistake twice? I doubt it - therefore I wonder if Corbyn peaked and got the perfect storm at the last GE.
peteblue
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It was incredibly close. If the vote had been two weeks later I think Corbyn would have won as the momentum (not the group) was with him. However, May made a complete balls up of the election, upset her natural voters, included a completely spurious piece on fox hunting and put the best political performer, Boris, in a box not to be seen. That will not happen again as she will not be the leader, and the pillocks who helped her will either have been removed or will have had their cards marked. A near disaster narrowly averted......
It ain't working fellas.
NilSatisOptimum
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That's the truth of the matter. Large swathes of the UK are right wing, with the inner city areas being more inclined to the left.
I think it's wishful thinking to believe the UK is anything but right leaning overall. Even with Brexit and the worst sustained period of austerity in living memory, the Conservatives still won the popular vote and had the most seats in parliament in 2017, and even now - when even ardent Tory supporters would struggle to give you one reason to vote Theresa May - the polls are still deadlocked. I don't need to provide any more evidence than that.
The truth of the matter is you gave a very nicely coloured map, which may as will be just be in black and white picture, and just like black and white answers don't tell me very much. Still maintain the the country is moving to the left, hence the interventions of current government in energy markets and train networks. And most Corbyn labour policy is well received! And 2020 was always the election Labour had pencilled in, not 2017
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I am from Northern Ireland so we have Buck eejits leading all our parties, which is a sorry state of affairs. Not as sorry as Britian when one of our Buck eejits is leading the Prime Minister around by the nose.
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Yes this is largely the case, and those floating voters are the ones who are influenced by the likes of Murdoch. Same as the undecided Brexit voters were steered in a particular direction.
If Labour wants to regain power then it needs to win that segment of the vote, and it won’t do it in sufficient numbers whilst headed by Corbyn, as his past will always come back to haunt him.
I see this trotted out a lot on here (that the media are bias against your chosen cause, and it's their influence that shifts the gullible against it etc.) but is there much evidence to support this? If anything, the trend in recent years 'seems' to be towards people using social media to confirm their existing biases. If that hypothesis is true then the mainstream media would have less influence, but I'd be keen to see any evidence either way.
See: Brexit.
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It's hard to reason with someone who takes the Daily Mail as their source of infallible information.
the 8 terrorists who committed the Munich Massacre were:
- Luttif Afif – Killed by West German Police at the scene
- Yusuf Nazzal – Killed by West German Police at the scene
- Afif Ahmed Hamid – Killed by West German Police at the scene
- Khalid Jawad – Killed by West German Police at the scene
- Ahmed Chic Thaa – Killed by West German Police at the scene
- Mohammed Safady – Captured by West German Police
- Adnan Al-Gashey – Captured by West German Police
- Jamal Al-Gashey – Captured by West German Police
However, in 1972, the Israeli Security service Mossad instigated a secret Operation, code-named Wrath of God, in which both Mohammed Safady and Adnan Al-Gashey were allegedly tracked down and murdered by Mossad agents.
The final terrorist, Jamal Al-Gashey, was last known to be alive in 1999, hiding in either North Africa or Syria, and living in fear of retribution from Israeli security services.
Of the 8 terrorists listed above who perpetrated the atrocity, NONE are buried at the cemetery in Tunis that Corbyn visited:
- Luttif Afif – Buried at Sidi Munaidess Cemetery, Libya
- Yusuf Nazzal – Buried at Sid Munaidess Cemetery, Libya
- Afif Ahmed Hamid – Buried at Sid Munaidess Cemetery, Libya
- Khalid Jawad – Buried at Sid Munaidess Cemetery, Libya
- Ahmed Chic Thaa – Buried at Sid Munaidess Cemetery, Libya
- Mohammed Safady – Allegedly killed by Mossad, unknown grave
- Adnan Al-Gashey – Allegedly killed by Mossad, unknown grave
- Jamal Al-Gashey – Was reportedly still alive in 1999
Touche. Has it been determined that the press 'converted' x% of people to (presumably) vote leave?
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He's polling higher now than he did then, no peaking occurred at the last GE.
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I see you’ve read far too deeply into that simile. Interesting.
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