I've got a sneaky feeling that May might outlast Corbyn as leader of their party.
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NilSatisOptimum
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He certainly does when you listen to him in person, however, he has little influence over what the press reports. I know he has been in Daily Mail in the past for for being a traitor for supporting UK gypsy community way back in 1975.
Literally zero chance whatsoever in Corbyn being "ousted".
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only way he goes is if he resigned, which is possible
I wrote to him during the 2016 leadership election, and in his response he explained how he wants to repay the membership for their continued support.
Even if he did, the next likely leader will be equally as hated by the establishment. There's literally zero point of it.
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be a very interesting contest if there was a new leader
Conference this year should pass through changes how we elect of the leader, in which a prospective candidate will only require 5% of the PLP to nominate them.
Anyhow, can we put this into perspective for a moment? Largest increase in vote share since Atlee's post war government, on a fairly radical platform, during on the biggest media onslaughts a mainstream political party has ever faced.
Despite his flaws, he hasn't exactly done badly has he?
As Brexit looms closer he'll have to get off the fence though, no? The vast majority of young people, who make up the bulk of Momentum, are remainers, and he's largely in the leave camp.
The manifesto clearly states that they would take us out of the EU. Both Corbyn and McDonnell have said repeatedly that they dislike free movement because they think it undercuts domestic wages. They've also said that single market membership is not convergent with the referendum, so not a policy they'll be pursuing, only for Keir Starmer to go for the cake and eat it road later on, a position that Corbyn himself opposed earlier this year. They've been flipflopping all over the shop and are determined not to back the rather cringeworthily named 'People's Referendum', largely because it's backed by the Blairites in his party.
The BBC was a left wing organisation when I worked there in the early nineties. They sway with the wind depending who is in power as they are terrified of losing the monopoly given to them by the licence fee so tow the line so as to keep the cushy jobs.
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Ha Ha Ha.
Lets break this down.
To quote the manifesto:
Labour accepts the referendum result and a Labour government will put the national interest first. We will prioritise jobs and living standards, build a close new relationship with the EU, protect workers’ rights and environmental standards, provide certainty to EU nationals and give a meaningful role to Parliament throughout negotiations.
As you are well aware, I campaigned tirelessly for us to remain in the EU and spent the last of my remaining savings to bus up and down from South Wales in attempt to swing peoples opinions somewhat. We failed to win that argument, and must accept it. That doesn't mean that we should facilitate the hardest of Brexits, in which will devastate our economy and put the NHS at risk. There is far more nuance to this.
Again, that's factually incorrect. Off the top of my head, when asked about it he stated that the "grotesque exploitation" of EU migrants is causing tensions - which from a polling point of view is a real problem. I'm of the belief that he shares my own views on how seeing EU migrants as "labour" alone is creating genuine societal strains, and that we need to shift the argument back toward a humanistic approach; part of that would be curtailing agencies that have created a new "underclass" of people in this country.
I wouldn't rule out a call for a second referendum on the deal, and nor should Labour. The Tories have made zero attempt to negotiate a deal, resulting in a widespread shift in how people see Brexit.
That being said, you also need to understand that we're not the majority party - and even with the support of the Liberal Democrats (if they bother to turn up), we'd still be unable to shift the balance of power in the commons.
To quote the manifesto:
Labour accepts the referendum result and a Labour government will put the national interest first. We will prioritise jobs and living standards, build a close new relationship with the EU, protect workers’ rights and environmental standards, provide certainty to EU nationals and give a meaningful role to Parliament throughout negotiations.
As you are well aware, I campaigned tirelessly for us to remain in the EU and spent the last of my remaining savings to bus up and down from South Wales in attempt to swing peoples opinions somewhat. We failed to win that argument, and must accept it. That doesn't mean that we should facilitate the hardest of Brexits, in which will devastate our economy and put the NHS at risk. There is far more nuance to this.
Again, that's factually incorrect. Off the top of my head, when asked about it he stated that the "grotesque exploitation" of EU migrants is causing tensions - which from a polling point of view is a real problem. I'm of the belief that he shares my own views on how seeing EU migrants as "labour" alone is creating genuine societal strains, and that we need to shift the argument back toward a humanistic approach; part of that would be curtailing agencies that have created a new "underclass" of people in this country.
I wouldn't rule out a call for a second referendum on the deal, and nor should Labour. The Tories have made zero attempt to negotiate a deal, resulting in a widespread shift in how people see Brexit.
That being said, you also need to understand that we're not the majority party - and even with the support of the Liberal Democrats (if they bother to turn up), we'd still be unable to shift the balance of power in the commons.
Well done lads.
Well that's me told with that terrific rebuttal, cant compete with such knowledge. I worked there for 14 months and it WAS a left wing organisation.
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