Knee-jerkers

[ijjysmith]

Agreed. Passion and frustration do that to you.

For once, I'm quite calm about it, probably because of my disdain for that joke of a competition.

Here here!! Been reading loads on here today about how apparently we are now a rubbish team. This is obviously tosh.

And I too beleive the Europa League is a bit of a joke. We weren't going to win it anyway (more than likely it's fixed so the Kopites do), and while it is fun to be in Europe, at the stage we are at now it's all still a learning curve for us. (although I am suprised how well Fulham are doing...maybe it's Hodgson's experience?)

Either way, I'm not bothered we are out, and felt far far far mor pi**ed when we lost to Liverpool and when we were proper sh*te at Hull.

 

[StDomingosGringo]

2-1 is a goal in front with them having to force the play - as they did. We never looked like exploiting their desire to commit to attack. That looks like the way they were sent out to deal with Sporting: dont give them an early cheap goal...which then became the philosophy for the rest of the half. Have you ever seen a team defend so deeply?

And another thing on the first leg: we were 2-0 up and we're going for number 3. Why? Very naive. We had them in handcuffs in the tie at that stage. Pushing so high up the pitch at that stage was an unnecessary dangerous game to play at that point in the tie. Again, that underlines Moyes lack of smarts in Europe.

Come on Dave you realise the point I'm making. 2-1 and they only need 1 goal in 90 minutes without conceeding in order to win the tie. 2-0 and it's a whole different ball game. They were able to play pressurizing football without over committing and leaving gaps.

Sporting worked very hard and got their just rewards. I'm not excusing the negative mindset of the players and their lack of adventure but I seriously doubt that was how Moyes set them out to play for 90 minutes. You don't need to be a body language expert to see how livid he was with the approach of our players.

We looked to really kill off the game in the first leg, had we sat back, abandoning the style that had served us well up until that point, at 2-0 and then invited pressure and conceeded there would be massive ruptions from certain posters on here for Moyes negativity. Damned either way it seems.

2-0 is still a precarious score at home in Europe until the final whistle is blown and clean sheet secured. Sporting looked there for the taking, our players were playing with confidence and going for the jugular until our fook up gifted them their penalty.

 

[davek]

Come on Dave you realise the point I'm making. 2-1 and they only need 1 goal in 90 minutes without conceeding in order to win the tie. 2-0 and it's a whole different ball game. They were able to play pressurizing football without over committing and leaving gaps.

Sporting worked very hard and got their just rewards. I'm not excusing the negative mindset of the players and their lack of adventure but I seriously doubt that was how Moyes set them out to play for 90 minutes. You don't need to be a body language expert to see how livid he was with the approach of our players.

We looked to really kill off the game in the first leg, had we sat back, abandoning the style that had served us well up until that point, at 2-0 and then invited pressure and conceeded there would be massive ruptions from certain posters on here for Moyes negativity. Damned either way it seems.

2-0 is still a precarious score at home in Europe until the final whistle is blown and clean sheet secured. Sporting looked there for the taking, our players were playing with confidence and going for the jugular until our fook up gifted them their penalty.

The day after the night before, this has been the worst bit in dealing with the defeat: the attitude being fostered by those who should know better that 'the jig was up when we conceded at Goodison to make it 2-1'. It's a crock of [Poor language removed] designed to cover a multitude of errors. And, as I mentioned, how is that going to play next time it happens? Taking a 2-1/3-2 etc scoreline into a second leg...we dont bother to turn up? I said last night to compare the way Mourinho looked at 2-1 with Stamford Bridge to come: he was beaming and talking about being in the driving seat...which Inter are.

 

[chicoazul]

I think what was most galling was that all the media soundbytes were about us going over to play positively and win and we done the exact opposite. For one or two players to have an off game in such a vital match you can understand but for near enough all of them to do so is very disappointing.

 

[davek]

I think what was most galling was that all the media soundbytes were about us going over to play positively and win and we done the exact opposite. For one or two players to have an off game in such a vital match you can understand but for near enough all of them to do so is very disappointing.

Jesus, you just reminded me of that Neville interview pre-KO: the one where he's sitting in the same hotel room he was in before the Benfica horror show. I think he vowed that sort of performance wouldn't be seen again...we'd learned a lot...not on my watch...etc etc.

Nice one skipper.

 

[StDomingosGringo]

The day after the night before, this has been the worst bit in dealing with the defeat: the attitude being fostered by those who should know better that 'the jig was up when we conceded at Goodison to make it 2-1'. It's a crock of [Poor language removed] designed to cover a multitude of errors. And, as I mentioned, how is that going to play next time it happens? Taking a 2-1/3-2 etc scoreline into a second leg...we dont bother to turn up? I said last night to compare the way Mourinho looked at 2-1 with Stamford Bridge to come: he was beaming and talking about being in the driving seat...which Inter are.

Who has said "the jig was up" exactly? It changed the complexion of the tie though. The players didn't turn up, agreed, but you are suggesting that is Moyes fault and his tactics. Surely the players themselves should shoulder some of the blame for such a limp performance.

Mourinho chats [Poor language removed] to the media, it's part of his over confident persona and you know it. I can't believe anyone who knows the man takes anything he says publicly at face value. They have a narrow advantage, same as we had, being in the driving seat is not being in control of the tie. I fully expect the Chavs to get through at the Bridge.

 

[chicoazul]

We love our right backs here at Partisan Walton.

Obviously we love the left side well better. Only dirty capitalist pigdogs get highlights in their hair.

 

[Hayee]

We love our right backs here at Partisan Walton.

Obviously we love the left side well better. Only dirty capitalist pigdogs get highlights in their hair.

get well soon HIBBERT, missing you lid! Forza Partisan

 

[chicoazul]

Although Hibbert is on the right wing, he's defo Partisan values.

IMPERIALIST SCUM.

 

[KelseyGrammer-Beast-SuitsBlue]

'Knee-jerkers', well, everyone has to start somewhere.

 

[Ara]

You can't compare us to Fulham, Fulham played a team that hasn't played a competative match for 2 months. We played a team that was playin for there managers life. They had the away goal an that really spured them on. We had 2 CB that hadn't played together and wern't working well an giving them to much space.
Also Bily couldn't hold the ball for more then 2 seconds and finally he ref brought every single dive they did and refused to give us anything.
That lines man was definatly a Sporting fan

 

[Dublintoff]

Speaking of the ref, you just reminded me of the tackle on baines at the end of the game near their box, when intead of giving us a freekick in a dangerous position and a yellow card to the sporting player the ref gives a kick out, shocking. No excuse for losing but pissed me off all the same.

 

[kenada_blue]

Speaking of the ref, you just reminded me of the tackle on baines at the end of the game near their box, when intead of giving us a freekick in a dangerous position and a yellow card to the sporting player the ref gives a kick out, shocking. No excuse for losing but pissed me off all the same.

The ref was [Poor language removed] all game IMO.

Anyway, if Moyes wants to compete in Europe he needs to know Europe because tactically he's poor against decent passing sides.

He may want to draft in an assistant in the back room staff with European expierence to help him out tactically IMO. All the top teams have either managers or backroom staff with European pedigree to help out the manager.

Moyes is walking into European games trying to play his way and has nothing to answer for when it doesnt go that way. I think he needs help if he's gonna get anywhere in European Competitions.

 

[GhostOfDixie]

The ref was [Poor language removed] all game IMO.

Anyway, if Moyes wants to compete in Europe he needs to know Europe because tactically he's poor against decent passing sides.

He may want to draft in an assistant in the back room staff with European expierence to help him out tactically IMO. All the top teams have either managers or backroom staff with European pedigree to help out the manager.

Moyes is walking into European games trying to play his way and has nothing to answer for when it doesnt go that way. I think he needs help if he's gonna get anywhere in European Competitions.

Usually are when we lose. Funny that.

 

[kenada_blue]

Usually are when we lose. Funny that.

Not in my book.

If he was [Poor language removed] and we won then Id still say he was [Poor language removed] cos he was very poor.

Any tap or contact and player going over he gave a free kick, gave throw ins and corners that werent, clear fouls that should've been and werent given.

That was for both teams...but he was very much in favour of the home side.