Kevin Mirallas

[Dithering Dougie]

It's funny how some turn on players so fast on here. Same happens with all our good players when they hit some bad form.

Think you've got to remember we payed 6M for kev. If he was consistantly boss he'd be playing for Real Madrid etc and worth 20 odd million plus.

Squad options is the key for me, someone ready to replace a player who's not on form or having a inafective game.

Certainly wouldn't want to be selling him due to being inconsistent. You will NOT find a player who can play at kev's on form standard consistantly in our price range!

Yeah I agree, although he's extremely frustrating and unpredictable it's what you get for £6m. You have to take the good with the bad I think with Mirallas.

I think it's partly down to Martinez as well, he's been given licence to run at people more this season and not worry so much about his defensive duties so he looks more threatening but with less effect I think this year. I think he was more effective last season under Moyes and his more regimented style of team over individual.

 

[Chang Elephant]

It's all on Barks really tho, a good Barks makes a good Everton.

Osman's understudy

 

[banno]

I think he got a toe to the ball in that challenge.. if you view it in slow motion, from a certain angle.

Which Ball? The football or the ball in Suarezs scrotum. I would say he was nearer the latter.

 

[DanB90]

Thing I like about Kev is, when he's on form he's effin' boss. But there's also been games where he's been very anonymous and produced moments of brilliance from nothing. It didn't quite happen for him yesterday but he didn't play as bad as some are making out, looked dangerous first half.

 

[RFUS]

He's an enigma. Clearly immensely talented but he's myopic and has had far more good games than bad.

FFS Kev be ace again.

 

[Jags]

Better than Deulofeu. Mirallas left, McGeady right from here on in please Bobby.

 

[bluestevon]

Has the habit of keepers producing top save every game vs him and when they don't he's hitting the woodwork, otherwise would be sat in double figures on goals atm, call it a bit of luck he needs and we'd probably have a much brighter view on his season

 

[stevesteve1878]

The thing is our strength and weakness at the moment is Barry/Mccarthy in many ways they are brilliant but they offer absolutely nothing in terms of creating/scoring goals leaving the likes of Kev and Del as our only goal threat other than Lukaku where as most teams would have something else from he middle of the park (yes I know we have Barkley or Osman in behind but they play virtually as strikers now). My point is that despite the criticism for Del/Kev yesterday they both produced good saves from the keeper from nothing situations which is kind of what they are there for and is why in the current system I'd still play them both over Pienaar. You can only keep the ball so long without actually trying something different you just have to hope that what they try comes off a few times each game

 

[Jimmy Flangemoth]

His free-kick against Villa though.

 

[RFUS]

The thing is our strength and weakness at the moment is Barry/Mccarthy in many ways they are brilliant but they offer absolutely nothing in terms of creating/scoring goals leaving the likes of Kev and Del as our only goal threat other than Lukaku where as most teams would have something else from he middle of the park (yes I know we have Barkley or Osman in behind but they play virtually as strikers now). My point is that despite the criticism for Del/Kev yesterday they both produced good saves from the keeper from nothing situations which is kind of what they are there for and is why in the current system I'd still play them both over Pienaar. You can only keep the ball so long without actually trying something different you just have to hope that what they try comes off a few times each game

Think they've got about 3 goals and 7 assists between them. That's pretty decent for more defensive midfielders. The problem is that the players in front of them aren't doing enough. You'd think with 2 wingers, a CAM and a striker we'd have better stats but Barkley hasn't been very productive, nor has Pienaar. Mirallas has scored and assisted a reasonable amount but he's the only one really, and we all feel he's not really been at his best.

 

[Del]

The thing is our strength and weakness at the moment is Barry/Mccarthy in many ways they are brilliant but they offer absolutely nothing in terms of creating/scoring goals leaving the likes of Kev and Del as our only goal threat other than Lukaku where as most teams would have something else from he middle of the park (yes I know we have Barkley or Osman in behind but they play virtually as strikers now). My point is that despite the criticism for Del/Kev yesterday they both produced good saves from the keeper from nothing situations which is kind of what they are there for and is why in the current system I'd still play them both over Pienaar. You can only keep the ball so long without actually trying something different you just have to hope that what they try comes off a few times each game

Osman/Barkley/Pienaar/Del/Pienaar and Naismith have scored 11 and have 5 assists

McCarthy and Barry have 3 goals and 7 assists

So to say they offer nothing in terms of creating is utter waffle

 

[bicycleheader]

It's funny how some turn on players so fast on here. Same happens with all our good players when they hit some bad form.

Think you've got to remember we payed 6M for kev. If he was consistantly boss he'd be playing for Real Madrid etc and worth 20 odd million plus.

Squad options is the key for me, someone ready to replace a player who's not on form or having a inafective game.

Certainly wouldn't want to be selling him due to being inconsistent. You will NOT find a player who can play at kev's on form standard consistantly in our price range!

Its not about him being consistently boss, as consistent as the top players. Its about him being more consistent in general because for me he has much more poor/average games for us than good....and because he hogs the ball so much it affects our final third play a LOT. Our final third play is our weak point in general, so for me its obvious he is a big part of why.

I think he is also not the brightest player, its all instinct. So when you see yesterday McGeady floats about in other parts and contributes in different ways with his passing and link play....Kev doesn't do it.

That doesn't mean I've turned on him though. He is an Everton player and seems to do his best even if sometimes a bit lazy, so basically I love him. However I can still criticise him and say I think we should sell if we get a bid of over 10M and can replace him, and I don't think his on form standard is even that high IMO.

I'd disagree that we can't get a player a bit more consistent for similar money or for whatever we would sell him for, don't think its as black and white as that. However if we can get a better player AND keep Kev for the bench/rotation then yeah that'd be better.

 

[bicycleheader]

Has the habit of keepers producing top save every game vs him and when they don't he's hitting the woodwork, otherwise would be sat in double figures on goals atm, call it a bit of luck he needs and we'd probably have a much brighter view on his season

I don't know if thats true, but if so it highlights how fine the margins can be as to whether a season for a player is seen as a good or bad one.

Thats why I think it's best to just actually watch what they do in the games and form your opinion there. Obviously goals are important for an attacking player, but everything else you will see only by watching. Stats such as assists are not as important as made out, as what counts as an assist can be pretty spurious to say the least.

 

[TheCount]

Morning Friends,

Just a few thoughts on Super Kev. I feel he is coming in for some undue stick, I think a lot was expected of him this year and he possibly hasn't lived up to what some wanted from him.

Yes, at times he is greedy and doesn't look for or see the pass that appears obvious from the stands but I think this is down to his attitude. I don't necessarily think this is a bad thing. At times he will try and take players on and lose the ball but this is what he brings to the team, a team of sideways passing crabs doesn't work.

He has spoken himself of responsibility, when he looked out of form at the start of the year he held his hand up and said he needed to be better and that the team needed him to be better. This I like. I think he see's himself as the squads senior attacking player or "attacking captain" and he puts a lot on his own shoulders.

His stats this year aren't bad: 5 goals and 7 assists from 28 league games is ok. The amount of times he has hit the post, crossbar or keepers pull of world class saves has stopped him from achieving even more. In comparison Adama Lallana has 8 goals and 5 assists from 31 games and people rave about the guy.

Kev is also pretty much the only one who showed up at Anfield. In conclusion I reckon the guy is a winner and Belgian and talk of cashing in for £15m is just silly.

Thanks to anyone who has bothered to read this!

 

[snipellis11]

I like kev, he can be a bit frustrating sometimes when he keeps hold of the ball too long but that's just the kind of player he is, i think he has done a lot better than people think this season and has got a lot of assists.